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  • Sunday, June 07, 2009 10:09 PMMark Lange Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Hi!
    I used the Steady State Tool in Win XP, so I tried to install it in Windows 7 RC 7100. The installation doesn't work (install only on WinXP and Vista). I googled for my theme and I found some items that windows 7 will have a guestmode with the same functions as Steady State. But I can't find the exact menu, I have only a button for youth control. Will i need any other software? Can someone help me? I tried the english & the german version of win7.
    THX,

    Mark
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  • Sunday, June 07, 2009 11:55 PMMatt H - Support Engineer Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
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    Hi Mark,
    I believe this is what you are looking for.

    How to set up PC Safeguard:

    1. Click to open Manage Accounts. ? If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.

    2. Click the user account picture for the account you want to change.

    3. Click Set up PC Safeguard.  If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.

    4. Click Turn on PC Safeguard.

    5. Click Apply.


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  • Friday, June 12, 2009 3:02 PMDavid - Support EngineerMSFT, ModeratorUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
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    Hello, Mark

    Personally, I don’t see any reason why it wouldn’t be updated. The release date is still a ways off so you should have a better idea closer to release.

    Let us know if this helps.


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  • Sunday, June 07, 2009 11:55 PMMatt H - Support Engineer Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
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    Hi Mark,
    I believe this is what you are looking for.

    How to set up PC Safeguard:

    1. Click to open Manage Accounts. ? If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.

    2. Click the user account picture for the account you want to change.

    3. Click Set up PC Safeguard.  If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.

    4. Click Turn on PC Safeguard.

    5. Click Apply.


    Matt
    Microsoft Answers Support Engineer
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  • Monday, June 08, 2009 1:15 PMDrehmini Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Hi Mark,
    I believe this is what you are looking for.

    How to set up PC Safeguard:

    1. Click to open Manage Accounts. ? If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.

    2. Click the user account picture for the account you want to change.

    3. Click Set up PC Safeguard.  If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.

    4. Click Turn on PC Safeguard.

    5. Click Apply.


    Matt
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    By chance did they remove this feature from RC1? And if so, was the idea completely scrapped?
  • Monday, June 08, 2009 8:35 PMDavid - Support EngineerMSFT, ModeratorUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
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    Hello,

    This feature has indeed been removed from the RC.


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  • Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:02 AMMark Lange Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Hi!

    many thanks for your posts.
    This are very bad news for me and I think for many schools...

    Do you know if "SteadyState" will be upgraded to work with Win7? Or will there be another tool? 3rd party Software?

    This feature would haven been the central arguement for educational environment to buy win7.... no chance to change this?

    Bye
    Mark
  • Friday, June 12, 2009 3:02 PMDavid - Support EngineerMSFT, ModeratorUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
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    Hello, Mark

    Personally, I don’t see any reason why it wouldn’t be updated. The release date is still a ways off so you should have a better idea closer to release.

    Let us know if this helps.


    David
    Microsoft Answers Support Engineer
    Visit our Microsoft Answers Feedback Forum and let us know what you think.
  • Monday, August 03, 2009 6:57 PMEric Krause Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Release is here.....will there be a SteadyState product, when can we expect it?
    Eric
  • Monday, August 31, 2009 9:17 PMDoug Skranak Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    I agree, release date came and went.  PC Safeguard is deprecated, and mum's the word appears to be the final answer for steady state.  What's the dilly-o?

    Thanks,

    Doug
  • Friday, September 25, 2009 10:49 PMdjw123 Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    I manage the computers for a 911 Dispatch call center for a City Government. We currently use Microsoft Steady State on the the 911 dispatch workstations BECAUSE they are CRITICAL machines. To me its the only possible way to run
    this environment.

    Before steady state, we had cronic issues with people causing havoc on the computers. Since weve installed steady state, we have had 0.. ZERO, "FREAKING ZERO", "YES really ZERO" calls to fix 911 computers in the past 2 years!!!

    Its part of the Job of our dispatchers to support our law enforcement offers in performing simple tasks. Sometimes
    this may include using the INTERNET (internet explorer) to google some information quickly, or use other santioned law enforcement internet web sites. Eventually, someone will mis-click a link and then the pc's toast without steady state. Thats bad news. We run 911 dispatchers on 24 hour /7 days week, 365 days a year. Let me tell YOU as an IT administrator... It SUCKS getting a call to fix a 911 computer at 4am.

    Even with the users running in non-power user, non-administrator, standard user accounts the users eventually find some way to screw up the computers settings somehow without steady state.

    Our Windows XP configuration is we make the C Drive Non-persistant, and put user profiles on the D Drive, and documents and settings on our NAS. Its literally been a miracle for us.


    Its currently our standard operating procedure to "Reboot if theres a problem", which instantly snaps the entire
    C Hard drive back into proper, sanctioned, working condition straight from the 'IT factory'.

    Our expected Windows 7 configuration was going to be as follows :

    * Symbolic link user folders and data to equivalents on the D Drive, and continue keeping their Documents on the NAS.
    * SafeGuard / Guest Mode the user accounts *AND* use Disk Protection on the C Drive to revert the contents on reboot.
    * Use AppLocker to eliminate the possibility of running anything un-sanctioned.




    Let me tell you... We will never have plans to move past windows xp + stead state, UNTIL there is a viable alternative.

    If Microsoft is getting out of the Steady State business fine.... We will only use "Deep Freeze" like products on supported
    operating systems and currently "Deep freeze" does not support windows 7.

    I URGE you to please support Steady States full Disk Protection in all future operating systems / editions.


    This comment is meant as truely high praise where it is really deservered. We NEED this product and functionally.







  • Tuesday, October 13, 2009 5:48 PMMark Lange Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Hi!
    Now the RTM-Win7 is out... the technet members will test / have tested the candidate.
    I believe MS has done a good work but I miss the "safeguard" tool. Has someone a good news for this? Thanks...
  • Friday, October 30, 2009 4:33 PMPeter Boguszewski Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Is there any more information on the future of Steady State for Windows 7?  I am an admin at UW Madison in the library system and we are now on hold for the Windows 7 rollout until this functionallity is available.  I am sure many other higher education institutions find this as unacceptable as we do.  All our excitement for a viable upgrade to XP is squashed.  Shame on Microsoft for being so short-sighted.
  • Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:15 PMDenverDavido Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    It appears that the "Deep Freeze" product now supports windows 7. Refer to:
    http://www.faronics.com/html/news.asp

    2009-10-20
    Faronics is excited to announce that Deep Freeze 6.61, the latest version of their flagship system integrity software, is now available. This Deep Freeze release features full support for Windows 7, Microsoft's latest operating system. Over seven million customers who have come to rely on Deep Freeze's bulletproof protection can now upgrade to Windows 7 with complete confidence. This timely launch of Deep Freeze demonstrates Faronics' commitment to delivering up-to-date desktop security while reducing computer support costs.

    Deep Freeze offers the strongest protection available and eliminates the need for IT professionals to perform rebuilds, re-image, or troubleshoot computers-reducing support incidents up to 63%. IT administrators are able to map user accounts individually or by user type to an unprotected partition or a Thawspace to retain user documents, pictures, movies, bookmarks and other data between protected sessions.

    <more details at link above...>

  • Friday, November 13, 2009 5:56 PMKED29 Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    It appears that the "Deep Freeze" product now supports windows 7. Refer to:
    http://www.faronics.com/html/news.asp

    2009-10-20
    Faronics is excited to announce that Deep Freeze 6.61, the latest version of their flagship system integrity software, is now available. This Deep Freeze release features full support for Windows 7, Microsoft's latest operating system. Over seven million customers who have come to rely on Deep Freeze's bulletproof protection can now upgrade to Windows 7 with complete confidence. This timely launch of Deep Freeze demonstrates Faronics' commitment to delivering up-to-date desktop security while reducing computer support costs.

    Deep Freeze offers the strongest protection available and eliminates the need for IT professionals to perform rebuilds, re-image, or troubleshoot computers-reducing support incidents up to 63%. IT administrators are able to map user accounts individually or by user type to an unprotected partition or a Thawspace to retain user documents, pictures, movies, bookmarks and other data between protected sessions.

    <more details at link above...>

    Its obvious to us at our school, Microsoft no longer supports Education.   As such, we have dropped all MS Apps from our equipment and are using Google Apps.  As soon as Google or someone comes out with an OS that simply gets you on the internet, we will be finished with Microsoft completely.
  • Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:11 PMbclark55 Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    It appears that the "Deep Freeze" product now supports windows 7. Refer to:
    http://www.faronics.com/html/news.asp

    2009-10-20
    Faronics is excited to announce that Deep Freeze 6.61, the latest version of their flagship system integrity software, is now available. This Deep Freeze release features full support for Windows 7, Microsoft's latest operating system. Over seven million customers who have come to rely on Deep Freeze's bulletproof protection can now upgrade to Windows 7 with complete confidence. This timely launch of Deep Freeze demonstrates Faronics' commitment to delivering up-to-date desktop security while reducing computer support costs.

    Deep Freeze offers the strongest protection available and eliminates the need for IT professionals to perform rebuilds, re-image, or troubleshoot computers-reducing support incidents up to 63%. IT administrators are able to map user accounts individually or by user type to an unprotected partition or a Thawspace to retain user documents, pictures, movies, bookmarks and other data between protected sessions.

    <more details at link above...>

    Its obvious to us at our school, Microsoft no longer supports Education.   As such, we have dropped all MS Apps from our equipment and are using Google Apps.  As soon as Google or someone comes out with an OS that simply gets you on the internet, we will be finished with Microsoft completely.


    Ubuntu does this, Kubuntu has a kiosk mode desktop that I think we will be trying
  • Thursday, December 10, 2009 7:58 PMPrime Digits Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Microsoft Sucks!
  • Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:01 AMAlaska Computer Guy Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Just another polite request for a version of SteadyState that supports Windows 7; please release one as soon as possible I'd like to take the OS for a test drive but can't deploy it on client machines until I know we can safely undo any user mistakes.

    Thanks!