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Windows 7 looks cool, should I install the Release Candidate?
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- Is there a reason I wouldn't want to install it and try it out?
- Moved byChris.H - Support EngineerMSFT, ModeratorFriday, October 02, 2009 6:54 PM (From:Getting Ready for Windows 7)
- Edited bySteve Alter Thursday, April 30, 2009 5:12 PM
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Thanks, we like it too :-), but unless you're an experienced computer user, you may just want to wait until the final product is available.
Why?
Well, even at this stage, this is still a test version of Windows 7 and your computer may not work the way you're used to, up to and including crashing and causing a loss of valuable data, from photos to budgets. So, for starters, you don't want to install the Release Candidate on the PC you use every day at home or at work. And if you're not totally comfortable doing things like backing up your computer, reformatting drives, working with partitions or burning ISO images, you definitely should NOT install the RC- Marked As Answer bySteve Alter Thursday, April 30, 2009 5:25 PM
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Thanks, we like it too :-), but unless you're an experienced computer user, you may just want to wait until the final product is available.
Why?
Well, even at this stage, this is still a test version of Windows 7 and your computer may not work the way you're used to, up to and including crashing and causing a loss of valuable data, from photos to budgets. So, for starters, you don't want to install the Release Candidate on the PC you use every day at home or at work. And if you're not totally comfortable doing things like backing up your computer, reformatting drives, working with partitions or burning ISO images, you definitely should NOT install the RC- Marked As Answer bySteve Alter Thursday, April 30, 2009 5:25 PM
- I did, anyway :)
However, I'm running Windows Home server, so I in case of failure...no problem.
So far everything works perfect, exept a game ET Return to Castle Wolfenstein. I think however that problem is Punkbuster related.
So far so good :)
Kind regards,- Proposed As Answer byJustin Kyle Thursday, May 14, 2009 3:45 PM
- If you have any reserves about installing Windows 7, you can run it as a virtual machine using Microsoft's Virtual PC. http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/97a74f0e-798d-45ff-b9bf-7feed68c40e51033.mspx You will experience some problems if you computer will not support hardware virtualization. No matter what, you should be able to install it and at least test and play with some of the features and looks of Windows 7. This will help you prepare for the final release and ease you into the migration. It will helpt you to know what to expect. When you install Virtual PC, it ask what system you want to install. Just select other if all else fails and manualy set the memory and hard drive to meet Windows 7 basic requirements. It may run much slower than actually installing Windows 7, but its a solution for an easy way to experience it, not evaluate its true performance.
- Proposed As Answer bynameless912 Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:04 PM
- no games with punkbuster work in windows 7 yet, the company that supports punkbuster wont add windows 7 support until the RTM comes out. So no CoD4, or
AAO or none of that lolz.- Proposed As Answer byWarbewarsl Friday, October 02, 2009 5:15 PM
- Installing the RC is a great way to get to know the next version before the time you really NEED it.
Personally I have a copy running in a VMWare virtual machine.
It seems a little faster, and quite a bit more memory-efficient, than Vista.
The only thing I didn't much care for at first is that the option to enable the "Classic" Start Menu has been removed. Generally speaking I like all the UI enhancements, but I've always liked the Classic start menu a little better, even though I rarely use it. However, it takes about 15 minutes to get used to the default start menu and indeed there are a lot of nice features in it.
I'd like to say that I for one - as a power user - am glad Microsoft has made a Vista.1 release in the form of Win7. It's long past time to polish up the implementation, make it more solid, and make things work better.
So far I haven't found anything that works in Vista that doesn't work in Win7.
-EB - For what it's worth, with only 1GB of RAM on my PC I had trouble getting the RC to run reasonably without thrashing using VMWare Player. I'm writing this now from a virtual pc created with Sun's VirtualBox, and it works beautifully with the exception of 3D functionality. Installation was straightforward and went off without a hitch. XP Home is my host OS.
I agree with the comment above that this is a great way to familiarize yourself with the changes in Windows 7 before you need it. While the flashiest bells and whistles may not work well on a virtual platform, you can get a very good feel for the vast majority of the layout changes and new features.
If you have only one PC to play with and don't want to mess with repartitioning to dual-boot, virtualization is the way to go.
I'm sure VMWare or MS VirtualPC would work just as well. My problem with VMWare was probably that I was using a pre-built virtual appliance, and memory settings were likely not optimal for my fairly limited RAM.- Proposed As Answer byWarbewarsl Friday, October 02, 2009 5:19 PM
- Of course MS Virtual PC comes ready to install its basic operating systems. It works great on those systems. Windows 7 is not yet an option for it. Any thing other than the basic systems from like 98 to Vista work good on there. I really think that is all that works really well on there. RC7 dragged really bad on the virtual side, but I bite the bullet and installed it on the drive anyway. It has crashed on me a few times before i downloaded the updates( two or three) and it is already better than Vista except for the dual boot.
Well, I'll wait :)
Kind regards,- Why wait? I installed the RC release on a older PC it's a AMD 1700+ has only 768 MB Ram and Let Me Say
I was shocked that it ran very well, Had I installed vista the Pc would be to slow, I had done so b4 install Vista on
the same PC and it was way to slow
Also when I have the performance all checked in the advanced section of my Computer, the PC runs Well
another Plus was that Windows 7 Had all the Drivers, even for my HP scanner where Vista was unable to run it!
so long as they keep Win 7 requirements the same , it will out sell Vista anyday, Another Note was a Very easy install
and Fast
Thanks
Tibor - Hi Steve i have run both the first beta and the second RC i found the second real easey to install not much to do realy, its a Breez , the graphics are nice and all my games run ok , not like Vista witch i had lots of probs with , i would definitly go out and buy this Ver .
The only thing i havent tryed is the media centre witch i will , it will be a bonus as i whant to run my computer on my PC. - May I ask what is VMWare virtual machine? is it Like Virtual Mounting a Drive?
Thanks- Proposed As Answer byQBall2U Monday, June 08, 2009 4:07 AM
I'm using it on my production (office, Photoshop, ftp, etc.) notebook for about a week now - the only problem I've encountered so far is that fingerprint reader refuses to work after resume from hibernation.
It's extremely unlikely that I'd go back XP which I was using before.
However it might be almost two decade experience of mine in IT field which apparenly makes me immune to all kinds of minor glitches
Anyway today I'm gonna install it to my (is there a politically-correct way to say lamer in one word ?) less IT-inclined friend's notebook, so it'll be a nice test. In any case I'm not foreseeing any problems
- Proposed As Answer bycarlos pedroso Sunday, May 17, 2009 3:54 PM
Why wait? I installed the RC release on a older PC it's a AMD 1700+ has only 768 MB Ram and Let Me Say
I was shocked that it ran very well, Had I installed vista the Pc would be to slow, I had done so b4 install Vista on
the same PC and it was way to slow
Also when I have the performance all checked in the advanced section of my Computer, the PC runs Well
another Plus was that Windows 7 Had all the Drivers, even for my HP scanner where Vista was unable to run it!
so long as they keep Win 7 requirements the same , it will out sell Vista anyday, Another Note was a Very easy install
and Fast
Thanks
Tibor
I'll wait 'till punkbuster update to the full release, meaning I'm still running W7.
I will and won't uninstall for just a game, my favourite game by the way. So now you have a idea how much I like my lucky 7.
Kind regards,- The only problem I'm having is compatibility issues with some of my hardware/software. office 07 installed fine, but I couldn't reinstall my Norton 360- luckily i was redirected to their site where i could download a beta version of the new norton 360 which was made to be compatible with 7. My main issue, and the reason i may go back to Vista (although i hate it,) is that I can't install my printer. I have an HP Deskjet F4100 all-in-one, and Windows 7 won't allow me to install it, because it's not compatible. It's a new printer too. Is there any way i can get around this? I can't be without a printer, but i'm really liking 7.
- Proposed As Answer byRoi A. Monday, June 01, 2009 5:27 PM
- I installed 7 on a seperate 80Gb SATA drive I had laying around.
I set this as my boot drive in the BIOS, popped the DVD in the drive and powered up.
Install was very easy indeed and the only issues I had was with my wireless card which is a Netgear WG111T. As I had my main drive now operating as a secondary D Drive, I just opened my drivers folder and installed the Vista drivers with no problems.
7's wireless manager is better than Vista and I was up and running in no time flat. Ran in all of the updates and installed the new version of AVG with 7 support.
So far have installed Roxio's media suite 10 with no issues although even though AVG was fully updated the security center still prompts me that it is out of date. No problems though, AVG is set to auto update so I set 7 to not monitor this App.
I now have a dual boot system (set boot priority in BIOS) and am seriously going to upgrade when RTM is released.
Performance is a Gem but I am running a Q6600 quad core @ 2.4Ghz with 4Gb of RAM so that is to be expected. That said, it blows the socks off of Vista even after a clean build.
No other problems to report.- Proposed As Answer bysmullfish Saturday, May 30, 2009 2:00 PM
- I am comfortable backing up my computer, reformatting drives, and burning ISO images. But I have no idea what partitions are, but i really want to try the RC out. Should I try it?
- Proposed As Answer byVS2008Pro Sunday, September 27, 2009 6:35 PM
- I have 2 hard drives on my computer and i am thinking of installing windows 7 on the second one. How can i go back to vista without removing windows 7?
- Proposed As Answer byBud Brumfield Saturday, May 23, 2009 5:35 AM
- Roi, I think it would be best if you back up everything on the 1st hard drive (if that's the one with Windows Vista), and then remove it by unplugging its data cable; that way you wont have to multi-boot or anything
You can then install Windows 7 on the 2nd hard drive, and whenever you want to revert to Windows Vista, you can unplug the 2nd hard drive and plug in the 1st one - OMG THAT IS THE GREATEST IDEA ANYONE COULD EVER THINK UP!!! THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH SUHAIL!!!!
- Edited byRoi A. Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:16 AM
- what is multi-boot anyway?
- Proposed As Answer byCoolieZA Tuesday, October 13, 2009 12:06 PM
- In a multi-boot situation you would have multiple operating systems (Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Linux, etc.) installed on your hard drives and select which one you want to use at boot.
- Windows 7 is a beautiful thing :)
- This is a VERY promising operating system.
I really like the direction change in Windows 7. I'm using a 3 year old AMD 3800 pc and there seems to be no performance difference between the Release Candidate and Windows XP. The features are cool, and I think it's a remarkably stable operating system. It seems cleaner and faster than Vista.
At the same time, you have to understand that compatibility issues are bound to occur. Hardware manufacturers are under no obligation to support an operating system before it has been released. My Creative Audigy sound card, for example, took a little tweaking before it worked. If you are not comfortable tweaking software and downloading drivers, you should probably take a pass.
But if you like puttering around, this is a very stable and fun pre-release operating system. Just make sure you keep your data on another drive. - yes. windows 7 is the best beta operating system microsoft has release. is the most impresive operating system, you have more features then the vista series. the picture resilutions and display is one of the key features you get in w7. it has more colours then other operating systems.
Internet browsing much faster than i have experience. .hope you can download and installed the W7 its amazing. Free Key is been given so no need to Crack the operating systems....
cheers@!!!!!!!!!! - hey i found a few dvd re writables lying around and decided to make a back up of my vista and i also burt me a coppy of windows 7 rc cant wait to try it out but one thing i ma a music guy i ALWAYS have my music with me will lime wire work with windows 7??
Ps i also want to know bwcause im going on a roadtrip with my brother and it would suck without music :P - I am running 7 on a Sony Vaio with 512mb RAM, 1.2Ghz processor with a 128m ATI Rage graphics card and I am amazed I can use the AERO features on such an old system. Microsoft has outdone themselves. I have 4 PC's in my home and this is the slowest one and it runs extremely well. I look forward to the RTM.
- Limewire works with Windows 7. Perfect.
http://www.baxiabhishek.info - Yes , but Please put it on another hard drive , not the one you have , and DO NOT partition your current drive . Follow this advice !!!!!
Yes , but Please put it on another hard drive , not the one you have , and DO NOT partition your current drive . Follow this advice !!!!!
I did use my current drive, and not regret it for 1 minute.
But I have a full image backup from the Vista.
W7 still running like a charm. :)
Kind regards,- well if you want to keep using windows 7 you will have to but, I say you should because windows 7 is a great opreating system i have been testing windows 7 and i have installed windows 7 rc and i really do like it
- Proposed As Answer byjca2323 Monday, May 25, 2009 11:55 PM
- to those not comfortable with "technical" parts of installation: don't burn your hands to this and don't install the RC.
Remember too it is supposed as Evaluation Copy and it will expire some day and poof, there goes all your work and software!
My advice is to wait until the final release in upgrading unless you don't have important files or work to do on that pc or you can't cope with your curiousity....
Windows 7 is nice, it is an upgrade for Vista in fact not a real major upgrade in my knowledge.- Proposed As Answer byKorbillian Tuesday, May 26, 2009 3:32 PM
- Well if you are experinced with any type of instal this should be a breeze. Myself i have had some trouble with getting multi boot to work with xp and vista. Example say i have windows 2000 and xp on 2 diff hard drives when i boot up comp i get the multi screen to boot either xp or 2000 great works fine. Now say i have vista,xp,win7 and win 2000 on 4 dif drives when i boot up i will only get get win2000 and XP or Vista and win 7 depending on which drive i have bios boot up first. So my solution to operate multi OS's on dif drives is to just access bios and change boot order. I name all drives(XP Pro,Vista,WIN7 beta....) and they all appear in my computer for each dif OS. This also makes it easy to access all dif OS for any info i have on any drives.
If I install the RC, will I be able to upgrade to the real release from the RC later?
- Microsoft would not want you to upgrade from RC to RTM (final release), and I would strongly advise you to clean install Windows 7 RTM when it releases (Upgrade from Vista is absolutely fine, though).
However, if you really want to do an upgrade, follow the steps below. This works both for Beta-to-RC and RC-to-RTM upgrade.- Download the ISO and burn the ISO to a DVD.
- Copy the whole image to a storage location you wish to run the upgrade from (a bootable flash drive or a directory on any partition on the machine running the pre-release build).
- Browse to the sources directory.
- Open the file cversion.ini in a text editor like Notepad.
- Modify the MinClient build number to a value lower than the down-level build. For example, change 7100 to 7000 (pictured below).
- Save the file in place with the same name.
- Run setup like you would normally from this modified copy of the image and the version check will be bypassed.
http://www.baxiabhishek.info- Proposed As Answer byAbhishek BaxiMSFTTuesday, May 26, 2009 8:01 PM
yes. windows 7 is the best beta operating system microsoft has release. is the most impresive operating system, you have more features then the vista series. the picture resilutions and display is one of the key features you get in w7. it has more colours then other operating systems.
Internet browsing much faster than i have experience. .hope you can download and installed the W7 its amazing. Free Key is been given so no need to Crack the operating systems....
cheers@!!!!!!!!!!
I would have to agree.
I have been using Windows since Windows 286 and this version is rock solid.
I sure hope nothing gets messed up between now and full release.
I am amazed at how well it works with legacy hardware and software.
I am running version 6.0 of Ulead's Photo Impact with only a slight alignment problem on the Menu Bar.
I also run Everquest with no problems at frame rates near 70FPS with an onboard video chip on an HP A6703W
Walmart special.
Frnakly I am impressed.- Sadly, Windows 7 should be a service pack for Vista because all it is, is Vista with bug fixes and optimizations. That's it.
It should DEFINITELY come free to anyone who bought Vista. If not, I am fairly sure that it violates the ruling of the monopoly lawsuit in several ways... I installed w7 yesterday and it works wery well, I also can install programs such as adobe that in theory are oly for vista.
it's faster than vista,- I've been running W7 as the only OS on my only PC (yes that includes a lot of stuff that I can't get back) since the build 7077. Have not had a single problem at all. The only issue I have had is when trying to install XP Home onto a second drive so that I could use some XP programs, it corrupted the boot sector of the W7 drive. Nothing the W7 disc couldn't fix in seconds though. I was so confident with W7 when upgrading to RC1 that I didn't backup a single thing, and guess what? No problems. Just updated, rebooted, and it was all go.
Loving it! (This is from someone who was about to throw out Windows altogether and go Linux...) Is there a reason I wouldn't want to install it and try it out?
yes, there is a reason. It is better to get Apple Mac.I've been running W7 as the only OS on my only PC (yes that includes a lot of stuff that I can't get back) since the build 7077. Have not had a single problem at all. The only issue I have had is when trying to install XP Home onto a second drive so that I could use some XP programs, it corrupted the boot sector of the W7 drive. Nothing the W7 disc couldn't fix in seconds though. I was so confident with W7 when upgrading to RC1 that I didn't backup a single thing, and guess what? No problems. Just updated, rebooted, and it was all go.
Loving it! (This is from someone who was about to throw out Windows altogether and go Linux...)
Aaagh! said the 'L' wordhi guys, i have Avery powerful pc with quad processor 2 G ram a very good Ati graphic card, I have xp installed 32 bit, working so great , i am thirsty of trying windows 7 but i am afraid i may lose the running xp windows, can i install the windows 7 in another partition , I have 2 hard disks one is 160GB, the other is 260GB , in the first one I have xp installed, could I install the windows 7 in the other hard disk and have dual booting operation system in case I am not happy with windows 7 I can boot to windows xp , should I install windows 7 64 or I have to install 32 as I did with xp, and if I want to delete windows 7 how can I do it
I did, anyway :)
However, I'm running Windows Home server, so I in case of failure...no problem.
So far everything works perfect, exept a game ET Return to Castle Wolfenstein. I think however that problem is Punkbuster related.
So far so good :)
Kind regards,
I haven't had any problems with punkbuster... Play CoD no worries.- I like both Vista and the RC, even tho' Vista is a resource hog. I have two HDD's - one has my Vista and the other has the 7 RC, I run them both off the same computer shell and NO DOUBT ABOUT IT - Windows 7 was at least 10x faster. I did a whole bunch of installs (iTunes, OpenOffice.org, and the like) on Vista, taking about twenty minutes total, but when I went to install on the 7 RC they took less than FIVE...and this is on a 2.4 GHz, 3GB RAM, 32-bit system, so it's no slouch.I definitely know that I WILL be buying Windows 7 when it comes out.
Why wait? I installed the RC release on a older PC it's a AMD 1700+ has only 768 MB Ram and Let Me Say
I was shocked that it ran very well, Had I installed vista the Pc would be to slow, I had done so b4 install Vista on
the same PC and it was way to slow
Also when I have the performance all checked in the advanced section of my Computer, the PC runs Well
another Plus was that Windows 7 Had all the Drivers, even for my HP scanner where Vista was unable to run it!
so long as they keep Win 7 requirements the same , it will out sell Vista anyday, Another Note was a Very easy install
and Fast
Thanks
Tibor
I totally agree. I run VISTA-ULIMATE on my "VISTA ready" laptop and have had no problems, [4 GB of RAM].
I HAD VISTA-HOME on a dual system Partition and hated it.
I wiped the Vista partition (it wouldn't install over Vista) and installed the Win7. Night and Day!!!
I had a small problem with my sound, but solved it, on another Forum. It runs very well and IS fast. I will buy the retail, but hope they give it to the VISTA buyers.
It sure would bring us all back to the MS family and stop MS's foot bleeding, it sure would be great PR.
I've given serious consideration to LINUX, but I use AutoCad and there's almost no decent equivalent, but VISTA has sparked a lot more interest in providing alternates to the OS and AutoCad. YEA!!!!
The yearly ouput of Cash for necessary software to run a business is becoming a real headache. Open-Source has made it possible to stay in business.wen is windows 7 coming Out
Roughly near October this year.
Home: http://www.baxiabhishek.info | Windows 7 Blog: http://windows7blog.infoIs there a reason I wouldn't want to install it and try it out?
There is no reason whatsoever to not install the RC. I have got to give Microsoft mad props on this new OS.
I started running the Beta on a P4 3.2GHz with 1.5Gig RAM and a 512 AGP graphix card. I was not expecting great results but the Windows 7 Beta ran that 'ol P4 just as well, if not better than XP.
I recently put together a new system. I7 920, Gigabyte UD4P mobo, 6gig RAM, evga 260 graphics card. And I went ahead and broke it in with the Windows 7 Beta 64bit. There were, of course, minor issues with drivers and such from time to time, but noting that I couldn't locate a fix for if the Microsoft Update didn't fix it first. Part of the reason for the prboems I had were because of the 64 bit OS, but it is starting to get be that if there isn't a 64bit version of a program you need out there, there is a 32bit version that will work. I did a lot with the Beta while I had it. Burned CD's/DVD's (I found Ashampoo to work best, had problems with Roxio and Nero), Itunes 64, World of Warcraft, used it to remote assist other PC's (Teamviewer), the list goes on. The only real bad taste it left me with was the Device Manager told me some drivers weren't properly installed... for devices I didn't even have, so it didn't matter, was just annoying. All in all, the Beta impressed me.
Now the RC.
I installed the RC on a new primary partion on my HD, copied over the personal files that I needed, and then I merged the particions with Acronis. None of the problems I had with the Beta existed and everything the Beta did well, the RC did it better. Installation was fast, and everything just worked! Enough said! Then Acronis merged the partitions for me seamlessy.
It seems Microsoft is gonna deliver on this one and I'm excited because I've been around since DOS 5.0 / Windows 3.1. Windows 3.1 was a breakthrough. Windows 95 sucked. Windows 98 (second edition) helped everyone get along with computers better. I LOVED the look and feel of Windows ME (too bad it was the buggiest operating system ever!). Windows XP was a very good OS and it's the OS that probalby millions of people started using computers on a day to day basis with. Windows Vista is a crappy name and that's why it failed.
Windows 7 is THE ONE. I will be the first in line when the final release comes out.- Proposed As Answer byDrogue Saturday, May 30, 2009 9:16 AM
- i am still looking for an answer, is it good to install dual bootable windows on my pc, i have a good pc, i have xp running so good, i want to try w7, i do not like to wipe out my xp, could i install both xp and w7 in two different hard disks, is it good idea, does it make the pc slower, any one has an answer plese
- Yes, you can do that. I did it on my old P4 for a little while. Had Windows 7 Beta on one HD and Windows XP on another HD. You'll probably have to use a 3rd party disk/boot manager such as Paragon or Acronis. In no way should this make your PC slower and it's a great way to compare the performance of the OS's to each other.
- Proposed As Answer byDrogue Saturday, May 30, 2009 4:12 PM
- Absolutly not. Been a techie for 15 years now and this is far and away the best desktop OS Microsoft has coded, makes Vista look like a big mistake to be confined to the bin along with ME. Even in RC stage it is so stable, fast and a thorough pleasure to use. My only gripe is that the function keys on my laptop do not work as they should. But hey they're only Fn keys. More than happy to sacrifice that for the experience of Windows 7 RC, if anyone has doubts about installing this RC then don't. Once you've made the step there really is no going back. The release to market can't come soon enough.
- Don't. Been running it on my laptop for a month now, no driver issues and no crashes. BETTER THAN VISTA!
- Think of your entire hard drive as 1 partition. Split that hard drive in half and you have two partitions, a C:\ and a D:\, that's in simple terms.
- U won't want to go back
- I totally agree, at last a positive comment. What is it with these paranoid people and their virtualising and dual booting????
- Limewire? Hey let's all have some Trojans!
- Another virus prolifigator!!! Limewire is SOOOO wrong.
to those not comfortable with "technical" parts of installation: don't burn your hands to this and don't install the RC.
Remember too it is supposed as Evaluation Copy and it will expire some day and poof, there goes all your work and software!
My advice is to wait until the final release in upgrading unless you don't have important files or work to do on that pc or you can't cope with your curiousity....
Windows 7 is nice, it is an upgrade for Vista in fact not a real major upgrade in my knowledge.
Yeah right, like "poof" all your data is lost, get a grip! If u think Windows 7 is just an upgrade then think again. IT IS NOT. This OS has everything that Vista promised and much more.- In simple terms, NO.
- It is so not Vista.
- Try using the WinXP compatibility mode, check Windows 7 website for details.
- Windows 7 has a neat feature called Windows XP compatibilty mode, in a nutshell you run WinXP as a virtual machine, install your apps and they appear as virtualised apps in your Windows 7 start menu. See MS website for more info.
- Yet again another valid sensible comment. Agree totally, Windows 7 rocks!
- Just throw XP out the window. Windows 7 rules, so nice, a pleasure to use, no bugs, stable, attractive, faster, need any more reasons?
I've been around a long time too; my first computer was a Kaypro 2 (Z80 processor). I beta tested everything up to XP but took a pass on Vista. I am soooooo glad I decided to try the RC. My laptop is a IBM T60p with Core 2 Duo T7400 (2.16Ghz) with 2GB Ram. I installed RC1 on an old 160GB, 5.4K RPM HDD I had laying around. It blows the doors off XP even though I was running that off a 200GB 7.2K rpm HDD. With XP I could really tell the difference between 5.4K rpm and 7.2K rpm drive. I am sure I will too with W7 but straight out of the box it is peppier than XP even on a "slow" HDD. I like it so much that I can't imagine going back to XP or Vista so I have been migrating everything over to W7. I've still got XP on the other drive so backup is not an issue. I'm really impressed.
It seems Microsoft is gonna deliver on this one and I'm excited because I've been around since DOS 5.0 / Windows 3.1. Windows 3.1 was a breakthrough. Windows 95 sucked. Windows 98 (second edition) helped everyone get along with computers better. I LOVED the look and feel of Windows ME (too bad it was the buggiest operating system ever!). Windows XP was a very good OS and it's the OS that probalby millions of people started using computers on a day to day basis with. Windows Vista is a crappy name and that's why it failed.
Windows 7 is THE ONE. I will be the first in line when the final release comes out.- Just finished a fresh install (made the switch from XP Professional) and it looks and runs beautifully! I'm still running on a system I built back in 2002 and I never thought I would be able to run an OS like this :) Intel Pentium4 2.40GHz with 1.75GB of RAM.
The only small hangup I had was with my Creative Sound Blaster Live! sound card, but was able to find a modded driver version that's working great now (thanks to the help at http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=Files&go=cat&dwn_cat_id=20).
1 small piece of advice for any other "mid-tech" interested users out there- don't forget to have your Ethernet card install CD handy as soon as you install ;)
Can't wait for the official release! Sadly, Windows 7 should be a service pack for Vista because all it is, is Vista with bug fixes and optimizations. That's it.
It should DEFINITELY come free to anyone who bought Vista. If not, I am fairly sure that it violates the ruling of the monopoly lawsuit in several ways...
Hmm with this viewpoint then each and every windows version should be a service pack of windows 1.0. In the same manner we could say the same for any software on the market. Great just get the version 1 and be eligiblwe for service packs for lifetime:)- virus ? what virus ? just use linux people
- too bad my computer doesn't support virtualization :(. i decided to partition my drive (something i did not want to do) but i do not regret it at all. i am writing this from windows 7 and i like it more than vista. does anyone know how to put partitions back together? i have already 4 partitions on my drive and when windows 7 comes out, i will put all partitions together and put windows 7 on that. please send me an email if you know how to rejoin partitions at Email removed for privacyTHANKS!!!!
- if you don't have anything on the second hard disk, you can install windows 7 on it and be able to dual-boot. and if you have a 64bit processor, you can install Windows 7 64 bit. to delete windows 7, you have to go to XP, then you can click on "start", then right-click "computer", click on "manage". then select "storage", select "disk management (local)", and right click the drive where windows 7 is installed and click on "delete partition". I hope this answered your question.This is for Nuflia on his question because here it doesn't let you reply right under the comment. :(
- Edited byRoi A. Monday, June 01, 2009 6:59 PM
- ummmm viruses can also infect linux, duh! no OS out there does not have its share of deadly viruses!! Oh and more programs and games work on windows than linux and i prefer Windows over Mac OS X! so Windows wins, and furthermore, Windows 7 ROCKS!!!!
The only problem I'm having is compatibility issues with some of my hardware/software. office 07 installed fine, but I couldn't reinstall my Norton 360- luckily i was redirected to their site where i could download a beta version of the new norton 360 which was made to be compatible with 7. My main issue, and the reason i may go back to Vista (although i hate it,) is that I can't install my printer. I have an HP Deskjet F4100 all-in-one, and Windows 7 won't allow me to install it, because it's not compatible. It's a new printer too. Is there any way i can get around this? I can't be without a printer, but i'm really liking 7.
that printer is discontinued but i checked their website and it said it is compatible with Windows Vista Ready. 99.99% of anything that is compatible with Windows Vista is compatible with Windows 7 so your printer might be in the .01% category. Sorry! :(- I managed to force install Windows 7 on an old T21 ibm with 256 of memory, it runs as good or better than xp. What a great OS.
- You really don't have to reformat , you can install on a second hard drive. That's what I did and so far there has only been minor problems like not being able to restart without losing an in-progress download.
In simple terms, NO.
and this is one big reason I am using it on 3 "test" machines and not as my primary work machine (I am not paranoid IOW:) It is rock solid and I like it but as a developer clean installs and then install this, install that is time consuming (that is where I am really paranoid and do all the hard work myself rather than lending to tools like migration assistant:)- Hi mama cook,
I had a problem installing an HP printer (P1006) and was having all kinds of problems trying to install the drivers from the CD. Then I stumbled on the following solution and everything is working perfectly.
Create a shortcut on your desktop to the Vista driver install program on the CD. Then right-click on theshortcut and choose PROPERTIES and then click on the COMPATABILITY tab. Check the box that says RUN THIS PROGRAM IN COMPATABILITY MODE FOR and then choose compatibility with Vista SP1 from the list. Finally, click OK, and then double click on the shortcut to start the program. The driver installed without a hitch and the printer is now working fine.
Hope that helps. - Hi Roi,
I responded to this earlier.
If you have an install disk for the printer (with a Vista driver), create a shortcut on your desktop to the driver install program on the CD.
Then right-click on the shortcut, click on the compatibility tab, click the box where it says "Run in compatibility mode for" and choose Vista SP1 from the list.
Finally, click OK and then double click the shortcut to start the install program.
It worked for my HP printer perfectly. - I believe that you should try it out, but remember, it does not come with any warranty so you would be the one responsible for any loss of data, so my advice is to back up all your important stuff periodically and go ahead with windows 7. I have been using it for some time now and believe I can't be any happier (Well that's not entirely true but you know my meaning). Compared with Windows Vista, Windows 7 RC, even if it is only a pre-release, is more stable (It only crashed once in 3 weeks, whereas the Vista used to crash on an average of twice a day), much much faster when starting up and shutting down, better compatibility with most programs, less RAM consumption, better driver compatibility (Windows Vista driver work better with Windows 7 than Vista. weird i know). And if you don't want to risk anything, you can also wait till November (That's the official time for the release of Windows 7)
- Yes,
Unless you are a it pro
Firstly, you are alone. You will have to rely on other users for support.
This software could have problems (probaly not) but this is not confirmed glitch free
Check owt the windows 7 website for more info
The website is http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/
Hope this helps If I install the RC, will I be able to upgrade to the real release from the RC later?
ahooch
Microsoft has announced that you will have to do a clean installation of the Windows 7 RTM (the final release) so you will have to back up everything and you would have to reinstall everything again.- I'm leaning towards using Windows 7 EXCLUSIVELY! (No Vista backup)
I am aware of the risks involved and have backed up my data files to an external hard drive.
I participated in the windows 98 and XP public betas COLD! (using ONLY the beta OS)
Vista was a partition and on the same PC I am using now.
May I ask what is VMWare virtual machine? is it Like Virtual Mounting a Drive?
Thanks
VMWare is _something_ like mounting a virtual drive in that it is mounting a virtual machine including but not exclusive of the hardware as virtual hardware (they can 'communicate' with real hardware, such as drives and network hardware). It started out as a way of trying out OS's without installing them and trying out various hardware on the (virtual) OS's.
Hope that clarifies your question for you?
QBallI am comfortable backing up my computer, reformatting drives, and burning ISO images. But I have no idea what partitions are, but i really want to try the RC out. Should I try it?
If you are knowledgeable enough to know about backing up your computer (which mostly all you need to back up is your personal files, like documents, pictures, and any hardware drivers you installed _after_ installing your OS...I keep a separate hard drive as an external USB drive as my backup and download drive) AND you don't mind re-installing your current OS if you don't like Windows 7 ... then go right ahead, install Windows 7!
Partitions are a prepared area on your hard drive that are setup for your OS, formatted to it's particular specifications. If you only have one OS, then you might only have one partition unless you (or your vendor) may have set up a separate partition for emergencies, like if your Windows XP or Vista became corrupted you could 'roll back' to a pristine Windows...the problem there lies in that EVERYTHING installed AFTER the OS was installed will be wiped or erased, which includes documents, pictures, music, videos, and drivers as well as external programs which were installed afterwards (presumably by you)! That is why regular backups are very IMPORTANT! :/
If you are going to install Windows 7 as your ONLY Operating System, back up all your personal data first (docs, pics, music, videos, drivers [the ones YOU installed, after installing Windows], etcetera), then install Windows 7.
Otherwise if you want to have two OS's, say Windows XP and/or Windows Vista AND/OR Windows 7, then whichever Windows was installed last will detect and set your computer up to 'dual-boot' your computer...allowing you to choose at boot up which OS you wish to boot using a very basic (text-mode) menu. To be able to do this, you will either need two separate partitions for each Windows or you will need two separate hard drives, both made bootable via your partitioning program. They should also be plugged into the Master, or Primary, cables on your motherboard via the ATA/IDE (and EIDE) or SATA or RAID or SCSI drive connectors (whichever type of drive(s) your particular system supports); ATA/IDE (and also EIDE) and SCSI drives use a wide flat 40-pin 'ribbon' cable and SATA (I'm not real sure about RAID) use a smaller 7-pin ribbon cable. If you do not wish to get into repartitioning your primary hard drive, you might prefer to use the separate hard drive (this would probably be easier, in my humble opinion). If you decide to repartition your primary hard drive, make sure to backup your data first, then defragment your hard drive and have it check for disk errors while your at it. If all goes well you're ready to begin partitioning.
There are a couple (or so) ways of doing this but the best way of doing it, without BUYING a commercial partitioning program
, is a free (OpenSource) utility called Parted Magic (download URL: http://partedmagic.com/download.html) which is an ISO that you burn to disc and boot with it in your disc drive. When you boot up, it gives you a GUI (Graphical User Interface) that allows the user to partition the drive(s) very easily and quickly. One of the best features, is that it allows you to RESIZE your existing partition(s) making it easy to create a second, or even more, partitions. AGAIN, (as I stated above) make sure to defragment your hard drive FIRST before attempting to repartition or resize your hard drive (only if you decide to keep your existing Windows)! Another great feature of this 'program' is that you can CHANGE YOUR MIND before committing to the change(s) to your hard drive(s) simply by clicking 'Undo'! :) Be aware that this 'program' is a mini LIVE linux OS, 'live' meaning nothing is installed to the hard drive but it allows you to DO things TO your hard drive(s)...everything is done from your CD or DVD drive - - it loads and runs the OS to RAM and from RAM (another great feature). Depending on the size of your hard drive, you need for Windows XP: at least 1.5 gigabytes (GB) of available space on the hard disk; for Windows Vista: at least 15 GB of available space; Windows 7: at least 16 gigabytes (GB) of available space on the hard disk (I did my research to be certain). So, for say a 20 GB to 100 GB hard drive, partition it to half the drive size (it will be an approximate amount) for each of the two partitions (for a larger hard drive, say 200 GB to 350 GB, try partitions of 100 GB or so each [350 GB divide into thirds]). Look out if your hard drive is already partitioned as I stated in the second paragraph above...you could screw that particular partition up if you are not careful! :( The program will allow you to set the type of format for each partition (like 32-bit or NTFS), do so before committing. Look in the menus for flagging the partition(s), flag each as 'bootable', then commit your changes. When you're done the next thing to do is reboot your pc with the Windows 7 CD or DVD in the disc drive and install! :)
Sorry that my reply is so lengthy...I just wanted to explain the steps necessary to doing the partitioning to you as well to anyone else that might want to do the same thing that doesn't know how to do it!
Hope this helps? :)
QBall- I tried W7 and have had a shed-full of problems, so much so that it is virtually unusable and I have had to abandon it.
I built a new machine and decided to use it to try out W7 before I pressed it into real service. The machine has the following specs;
Motherboard: Gigabyte MA790XT-UD4P
Memory: 8Gb of OCZ Platinum DDR3 PC3-10666C7 1333MHz Dual Channel
Processor:AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 810 2.6GHz
HD2:HITACHI Deskstar P7K500 500GB
HD2:HITACHI 1TB 16MB SATA
DVD:LG GH22NP20AUAU
Graphics card:XFX ATI Radeon HD 4870 1024MB GDDR5
Problems started as soon as I tried to install. The install ran forever before eventually failing. On further investigation I am pretty sure that it is an issue with the DVD drivers. I eventually installed from a bootable USB memory stick, and I managed to get W7 installed from that. As a matter of interest, the DVD drive remained problematic although it works fine under XP and other operating systems.
Once running, I discovered that nearly all my software ran really well and was very pleased with the responsiveness and the UI, unfortunately I started to random BSODs approx twice an hour. The logs seemed to indicate that the Hard drives were in error and datasets were getting corrupted. I thoroughly tested the disks and they passed everything thrown at them so this can only have been another W7 problem.
Given that this is a pre-release operating system, I cannot say that I was too worried about it. It gave me chance to have a look at the thing, and overall it is looking good. Once MS correct the errors - which I am sure that they must before it can be released for production - then it looks like it will be a great improvement over both XP and the broken Vista.
It looks like they may have got it right this time, and as such will probably migrate to it when it is released - assuming that the price is reasonable.
- I'm running W7 on two machines, and it seems to work fine.
One of them is quite an old AMD Athlon 2500+ with only 1 GB RAM and a 256MB Geforce 5900XT. I rarely use that Computer anymore so I thought it would be just right to try the RC on, not really expecting it to work, remembering the Vista requirements to a PC. but it worked just fine. at first no Aero UI, the computer ran just fine, booted really quick and i had no problems whatsoever. all the programs i tried were running, even those of which windows said they wouldn't. and even when aero started somehow automaticly (didn't realize it at first) the computer was still running! you could see the UI slow a litte down but the general performance was still good.
when my new computers HD crashed i was kinda forced to work with W7 untill i got a new drive cause I killed everthing on my old computer. no XP to go back to, everthing except the few things i tried where gone, so i had to set up everthing i usually work with (and i dind't think it was worth reinstalling XP for the time i really needed that computer). and as soon as i got my new HD I really got into W7 and decided to install it on my new computer too. no XP there yet even though i wanted to get a copy of it on that computer, just to be sure.
It's a Core2Quad Q6600, 2 GB RAM, 1GB Geforce 9800GT and it runs just fine. almost nothing to complain about. one thing i realized is, that W7, even with it's improvments in performance still is slower than XP when in Games for example. Auto detect in Crysis set me up for "Gamer" under XP (2nd highest setting) and ran just fine. now with W7 it set me to "enthusiat" (or something) which is on setting lower than under XP, maybe due to DX10 and the lack of RAM.
another thing is that i keeps giving me a BSOD when using a torrent client, but i found out it might have to do with my USB WLAN Stick being an crappy excuse for a WLAN stick, a good one might do the trick. still, it worked just fine with XP
some "random" BSODs i can't quite put my finger on what caused them
and the most anying thing is "windows is looking for a solution to the problem" popping up for a few seconds, then gone, no comment what happend, if a solution was found or what i can do. sometimes i get the chance so send a report to MS, but most of the time i don't.
tried to install it on my laptop too, but it didn't work. some error while in setup, may have to do with not enough RAM... still thought it was worth a try^^
still. i like it. much more than vista which I tried to avoid, as long as my parents didn't need help with their computer...- Edited byManuel_gap Tuesday, June 09, 2009 10:40 AMtypo
- For those that want to run Windows 7 in a VM, I am having excellent results using VMWare Workstation. The speed is incredible for a VM and I can only imagine how well it will run on my machine when I get the RTM.
Roi, I think it would be best if you back up everything on the 1st hard drive (if that's the one with Windows Vista), and then remove it by unplugging its data cable; that way you wont have to multi-boot or anything
You can then install Windows 7 on the 2nd hard drive, and whenever you want to revert to Windows Vista, you can unplug the 2nd hard drive and plug in the 1st one
You do not need to unplug the drive just go into the Bios and turn on or of the drive that you want to use. Its a lot simplier that way.If I install the RC, will I be able to upgrade to the real release from the RC later?
Rc is the real release on the 30/6/2010 you will be told if you want to continue using W 7 you will have to pay for a licence or it will stop working, this is what it says in the agreement you ticked yes to.I have 2 hard drives on my computer and i am thinking of installing windows 7 on the second one. How can i go back to vista without removing windows 7?
For Windows Vista, see URL ; for Windows XP, see URL .
Hope that answers your question?
QBall
Just go into Bios and Disable the hard drive you do not want to use then save and exit Bios and the hard drive you want to use Boots up. When you want to change just do same thing again simple really, you can dual boot using same principal. Using this method you do not corrupt either boot image.- http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-GB/GettingReadyforWindows7/thread/2a184b20-7be4-4e1a-929e-914e9fd7a4fc
- Even better, try using VirtualBox from Sun Microsystems. It's free, works on all versions of windows, and runs faster than MVPC. The only drawback i've found with it is that its virtual graphics card doesn't support Windows Aero. Oh, well. Small price to pay for an otherwise very nice operating system.
PS I could teach a 4 year old to set it up, it has to be the easiest VM i've ever worked with ;) - why dont you guys stick with somthing for more than 2 years, every 2 years there is another windows version out that costs 2-300 bucks that most families in the US cannot afford, which is why certain people download pirated versions from torrents and P2P groups. Windows XP is by far the best release of windows that the company has produced. with new releases, most older games and programs cease to work correctly and people are forced to part with things that they are used to and love. have you ever heard the phrase "if it aint broke, don't fix it"? i used XP for a good while until like 3 different versions of vista came out, now this windows 7, and next year who knows.... now i use linux. anything ever written for linux will work on it. That is what sold me to them... the SUPPORT, somthing that microsoft has long forgotten. quit being so money hungry, don't you have enough? no matter how much you say "this version is better" there will ALWAYS be a spam of "security" updates or a new service pack to fix the errors that your team missed. If you guys took the time to develop like it should be developed, you'd have a stable release. You guys RUSH things drastically and cut corners, and in the end it hurts the consumer.... i mean, look at your 360, red ring of death speaks for itself.. nintendo, sega, sony.. they never had a problem... you guys did because you rush and release things before they are really ready to be.
- Go ahead and install it. I've been using it exclusively for a while now (XP is on my other partition), and it runs really well. I've been ripping from dics to my hard drive, burning to my DVD, syncing to my MP3 player, downloading videos from Youtube, installed and ran iTunes, scanned images, installed and ran Adobe Creative Suite, Office 07, played games, and other things (I'm typing this in Windows 7 beta/RC). By making adjustments to the msconfig and regedit (Registry Editor) I've got this OS running mean and lean by trimming out some of the fat! And yes, this is my only computer, and with irreplacable files on it, too:).The only issue I have is with my laser printer (Samsung CPL-500), as it had problems in XP, too, and the display on the Samsung says there is an 'internal error', which means it's probably not Windows 7, but the printer itself.I'm building a new machine soon, and will be using Windows 7 RC (64-bit) as my primary OS until I buy Windows 7 from the store. OBTW, I skipped Vista entirely (too many horror stories).
When in doubt, Google it! - Hi,
I have W7 too, and i don't have any problem with printers. I have HP Photosmart c5380 inkjet printer and HP CP 1215 Laser printer a i used the Vista drivers and the printers work well. I have no problems.
I hope that my answer could help you.
Regards. - Yes WINDOWS 7 RC1 have many new features to be wor on and it is also stable. You will definetly enjoy its themes, new mspaint, its fastness as compared to any of the vist's edition. Windows 7 RC1 taskbar is itself a revolutionary change in the history of the windowss editions
- Proposed As Answer bylogiccool Sunday, June 14, 2009 3:23 PM
- Yes, Windows 7 RC1 is a very good os. It has many new features as compared to vista, is ha improves start menu, new ms paint, much faster than any of the vista editions. Easy to install and Release candidate 1 is very stableone. You will definitely like its themes and wallppapers too. The task bar of windows 7 RC1 is itself is a revolutionaly chane in windows os.
- I had issues with RC which I don't know how it happened from Beta (beta was better at the point of what was happening). Also the fact that the issues never pop'd up in Vista (W7 uses Vista kernal) so it was weird. But I may have fixed it.
- Better you do not install Windows 7. There is a possibility that Windows 7 will not run. So on my machine. The first time i installed Windows 7 is a desaster. I have a standard MaxData PC with all listes reqiurements. Windows 7 is starting, but every action on keyboard or mouse will take up to some minutes of time. My result: There is no reason to install Windows 7, except to waste some time...
- Windows 7 runs alot cleaner then previous versions of Vista. atm im running the 64bit ultamite version of windows 7 and very pleased by its stability. However with any new platforms being developed you will run into software or hardware issues that can be fixxed on a later time :) that is if more people get involved on the beta and seen in feedback aswell as help from software /hardware companys.
- Yes. This is at your own risk. I messed up and can't uninstall 7 and reinstall XP.
- Windows 7 can be removed and windows xp reinstalled just download a hard drive repair program to rewrite it to factory settings. Evidence eliminaor or check your hd manufacturer website for utilitys. Will require having a backup hd to run the program so if you don't have one then =/ yes your stuck with rc till release. Which is why Microsoft put an advisery to using a back up system instead of your main pc :)
no games with punkbuster work in windows 7 yet, the company that supports punkbuster wont add windows 7 support until the RTM comes out. So no CoD4, or
AAO or none of that lolz.- Thats odd hrm? I installed Farcry 2 on my 64bit version and punk buster updated aswell worked for online maybe its a network problem your having with pb
I can't install my printer. I have an HP Deskjet F4100 all-in-one, and Windows 7 won't allow me to install it, because it's not compatible. It's a new printer too. Is there any way i can get around this? I can't be without a printer, but i'm really liking 7.
Do you run 32 or 64 bit version? Try to get a latest version of the driver from HP website for Vista, that should be compartible.
Another option, but a bit complicated one, is to find out, which part of "all-in-one" causes problems - scanner or printer. Usually that can be done by installing SEPARATE (but comportable) printer or scanner driver.
Also, it coud be the software incomportability, not the drivers.too bad my computer doesn't support virtualization :(. i decided to partition my drive (something i did not want to do) but i do not regret it at all. i am writing this from windows 7 and i like it more than vista. does anyone know how to put partitions back together? i have already 4 partitions on my drive and when windows 7 comes out, i will put all partitions together and put windows 7 on that. please send me an email if you know how to rejoin partitions at Email removed for privacy
THANKS!!!!
Roi, I was on my way to e-mail you, but thought, other people may find this information useful.
ANY ACTION TO THE PARTITION CAN RESULT IN DATA LOSS, SO, PLEASE, DO BACKUP. You'll need administrator rights to play with partitions.
This action is called "Merge Partitions". There are many tools for partitions management, like Partition Magic (uncomportible vith Vista and Win7), and embedded tools.
There's one in Win 7 (almost the same, Vista has).
Unfortunately, embedded tool does not support merging partitions, so you'll have to go the hard way.
Right-click My Computer, select Manage. This will open Computer Management tool.
Under "Storage" on the left side, you will see "Disk Management". This is it. MAKE SURE EVERYTHING USEFUL THERE IS BACKED UP, and delete partitions you want to merge (let's call it "merge"). It will become "unallocated space" after deletion. When done, just extend the nearest partition to this "unallocated space".
Ta-dah! You have it.
Hope, that helps.
P.S. to say, the tool in Win7 works much more correctly, than Vista's.ummmm viruses can also infect linux, duh! no OS out there does not have its share of deadly viruses!!
Most harmful virus usually seats in front of the display ;) And it can be found in ANY system :)- Hey Rocky
Was really glad to see your comments re: the 768 MB Ram as I have just run the Windows 7 Upgrade advisor and that was the one problem it encountered.
Obviously it advised me to see my PC manufacturer to amend this but I was kind of hoping somewhere there would be an alternative as I am really keen to try out Windows 7.
I'm going to install it on my machine, similar to yours and fingers crossed it will work.
Thanks for putting a positive slant on what might otherwise have been a very disappointing moment in my computing experience.
Well here goes, wish me luck ;-)
Cheers
Ian in Australia - Hey again...
Well I did it, after reading Rocky 220's post, I was inspired and plucked up the courage to go ahead and install Windows 7 on my HP machine with only 768 MB RAM doing a clean install over Windows XP and...... like Rocky said, it works perfect :-)
No problems with installation and so much smoother than XP.
Only dramas were with current software and drivers etc, where it was necessary to do a bit of updating but most software and driver providers are getting ready for the change and are already providing updates. Windows 7 even picked up all the correct web addresses for updating drivers etc and took me straight to the associated update page within the providers site.
In a word... AWESOME
I'm having a great time exploring all the new features, only downside is my graphics driver isn't Aero compatible, but i'm working on that as we speak so all I can say is, love Windows 7 and can't wait for the final release.
Cheers
WINDOWS 7 ROCKS
Ian in Australia
p.s. LOL I actually managed to skip getting used to Vista, as I've never had it on my machine. - Lets not forget, the version we are all running is the "Ultimate" one. i.e what will be the most expensive. There will be a load of things missing from the versions many people can "afford" to buy, most notibly Windows XP virtualization. Also we don't have any prices yet, which, given that retail is only 4 months away I would have thought had been settled by now ?
Apart from that, I have to say Microsoft have finally nailed it. This is without doubt the best OS they have released and is probably the thing that will stop me moving to Apple, which is what I was intending to do before I tried Windows 7. If your thinking about installing I would say stop "thinking" and get it installed!
Top marks to Microsoft. Now just don't get silly with those retail prices ;) - Well i just got Windows 7 RC1.. AMAZING PEICE OF SOFTWARE! This is the successor of Every version of windows.... Starting from 1.01!!!
I only have 1 problem.. When i Go to my computer and i go to Folder Options... I see my folder options are set to "Open Each Folder in the same window" Which is what i want... But it still opens in new windows like if i selece my D drive and i select another folder it opens in a new window. And if i select the folder in the folder, another window, then another, then another, and so on...
Has anyone seen this problem? please reply! And i know i have to remember its still in Beta or RC so their are still little bugs we need to exterminate! But still Windows 7 is a big fix from Vista!
PS: Im Running Windows 7 Under Dual Boot from my Previous XP PC. And i think 7 actually beats XP :D! - Thank you for your 132 replies which I received in my private e-mail all stating the same thing.
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RADARPUP- There's so much being done with Windows 7 that it's to every PC enthusiast's benefit to jump on the wagon now, at RC. They make it clear that you shouldn't take the plunge into 7 with too much confidence, but I haven't had ANY problems at all with my laptop.
Actually, my laptop feels newer already (if not for the lower WEI score...boo). Windows 7 is going to be a must-by for me, or maybe I'll just buy a new PC with it. But I don't forsee any problems migrating honestly, unlike going from XP to Vista.
But Vista is STILL my sacred partition right now, just in case. Just run a dual boot if you're really scared. But there's no need to fear Windows 7 RC, it's pretty stable.
And so pretty too! Vista did do SOMETHING right I guess :) - WINDOWS 7 is amazing OS so get it installed and enjoy its RC1 version its free to download from www.microsoft.com.
logiccool Limewire works with Windows 7. Perfect.
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Every single Windows computer I have ever encountered with Limewire installed was infected by Malware. Every. Single. One. It's not a leap to suggest Win 7 installs will be infected as well. Limewire is a file sharing nightmare.
Do yourself a favor and uninstall this Malware vehicle out of existence before you regret it. I feel so negative about this that I've stopped helping any family or friends with their PC / Computer problems once I've learned they shrugged off my Limewire advice.
Cheers!- NOT cool. Begging it for free as a payback is NOT COOL. Microsoft made a Terrible Mistake and needs you to forgive them, that's all, oh and now you're angry saying you want to Free-Lawsuit them online joining the Rebels saying BOO???!!! Comon! You've got to be more positive, this additude will get you in big trouble.
- NOT cool. Begging it for free as a payback is NOT COOL. Microsoft made a Terrible Mistake and needs you to forgive them, that's all, oh and now you're angry saying you want to Free-Lawsuit them online joining the Rebels saying BOO???!!! Comon! You've got to be more positive, this additude will get you in big trouble.
- Next time put more spaces on it so people can read it.
- would you need grub boot loader? ive heard that mainly linux can stuff up the windows boot loader
New to this forum, but had windows7 RC 64 bit version installed for a while now - why,
Well I wanted to see how it operated and worked with my software / hardware, and for me this should be the main reason for anyone to install it, I never expected it to work as well as it has, and contrary to what Microsoft said I use it as my primary operating system, I have XP on a second ‘unplugged’ hard drive in case of emergency and backup my file regularly to external HD, and every few months to CD.
Did It work easily, not in all cases, took me over 2 hours to get my TV USB device working, but its now working fine using a vista driver, but this is probably because I have installed the 64 bit version and took a while finding the correct drivers for my printers, other than that the RC is working quite well - there is an occasional black screen which lasts for about 3 seconds, like its going to sleep for a very quick nap.
One other problem seems to be occasional lack of response when clicking the mouse, but as I said its an RC version and one has to expect the odd problem with it, if anyone want to test their software / hardware I’d say install it, but no one should expect it to be problem free.. Will I buy it - yes if it carries on working well when I get all my software loaded.
Andy
- I bought a new machine to run Win7 ... had Vista installed, tried that first to get a comparison, then blew it away with Win7.
Pleasantly surprised with the speed ... 20-40% faster than Vista, and the boot time is MUCH faster.
Then I left it unattend for awhile ... then tried to install some scanner support, and BIG SURPRISE:
- Logged in as Administrator, I had no access to the DVD
- Tried to view some Win7 help sites with IE8, which required a plugin ... didn't have permission to write to C:
- Tried to bring up familiar tools in Control Panel / Administrator ... system couldn't find the binaries
I had no AntiVirus installed, so I guess I better get one (free AVG is priced right for my needs).
I'm reformatting the disk and starting over with a clean install ... didn't have too much invested in this machine so far.
Anyone else seen this? As far as I can tell, it was either DNS poisoning or a breach in the firewall,
because I really wasn't using the machine for anything productive (yet). - You should install it..It`s a great windows. But it has a few bugs with the internet latency in games. Can someone help me with this?
- Yea, sure there is a reason. I just don't know if you have the kind of death wish that is required...
Windows 7 is one big heap of fatal bugs, to my experience. I think I'll try it again in 2012 or so.
It certainly isn't worth a cent, at its current state. Maybe with SP3 or SP4 it will be reasonably stable, as is customary with MS products.
- Do we have to reformat when going from the release candidate to the final release or will the purchased lisence just act as an unlock.
- I see where Microsoft has a pre-release sale going on.
http://store.microsoft.com/microsoft/Windows-Windows-7/category/102
The Windows 7 Home premium (upgrade version) is only $49.99.
58% off.
The Windows 7 Professional (upgrade version) is only $99.99.
50% off
That is my 2¢
YB - I've been using Win7 RC for about a month as the only system on my home/work PC. Prior to this, I ran it as an alternative system from my second hard drive but it was slow and didn't get on well with it's XP Pro ancestor living next door on Drive C - in fact it ran slow, halted, shuddered, crashed and did everything else you would not want a system to do. When I almost lost all my data, I decided to back up all my valuables onto DVD's, format both Hard Drives then reinstall Win7 RC as the only system on drive C. I haven't looked back since - data now lives safely on drive D and the world is an altogether better place. 7 RC is better than Vista Home Premium, which is on my new laptop. Add to this my PC WEI of a meagre 1.0 against the laptop WEI of 3.9 and you start to get the picture, though I had to do quite a bit of tweaking to get the rock solid, high performance I'm enjoying with 7 RC now.
I would recommend anyone to utilise a twin drive configuration, regardless of whether you're using a new or old OS; use C for programs and D for data. If you only have one Hard Drive, create a partition that is big enough to hold all your programs - then, if all your data cannot fit onto the other partition, you can keep the most important there and access the rest from external sources (CD's, DVD's, Flash Drives, external Hard Drives, etc.).
There is a more in-depth review of Windows 7 Ultimate RC on the 'Freebies' page of my website at www.tiga-v.co.uk - I hope this helps.
P.J.Lewis- Proposed As Answer byCarreg Monday, June 29, 2009 9:14 AM
- Did you have to do anything special to get Everquest to work?
I'm running the Win7 RC and I, too, am very pleased with it (apart from having lost connection to my data drive - see elsewhere!). My question is, though that since it is the Ultimate version, when the retail versions appear will I be able to simply install the HP version over the Ultimate RC or will that, too, (like going back to Vista) require a "clean" install?
Ian B
I had a dual boot drive with two partitions. Having run WINDOWS 7 Beta on a partition (E), with Vista as my main OS on another partition, I followed the instructions to get Windows 7RC. What happened? Even though I selected the correct partition for the installation porcess (E), it turned out that the Vista OS on C was over written! THe beta version still resides on part E!
Be careful!!
All my software is inaccessable!
How can I
(a) get rid of the beta
(b) correct the problem and restore Vista (suggestion is on /kb/971760)
But with the Windows.old on partition C, I have only 6GB left. I don't think that this is enough to restore the system easily. (You need at least half the size of Windows.old available!)
Any further suggestions?
This was Not what I expected from the info released with Windows RC .- I had the same question. I also had my desktop die on me this past month. Anyway, 1 processor and 4 GB of ram later + one BIOS upgrade, I tried it just to see if I should go with this or with XP Pro 6 (which I can get legally!). I was a little worried because my hardware is older (or rather, my computer's hardware :) ). Here's what it has:
Asus P5B with most recent BIOS
Asus X1650 EAX series
WD 250 GB SATA hard drive
PC 6400 DDR2 dual channel memory (matched pairs: OCZ Platinum and Crucial Ballistics running 5-5-5-18 at 1.8 V
Intel Q6600 Quad Core stepping G0
The install ran OK, with two glitches: one was with the video driver and the other was with the ACPI driver. Both were solved by downloading the Vista 64 drivers from the Asus website.
So, yup, if you are an enthusiast, you can handle the install. If not, well....nope - wait for the final version. I would also suggest that you would go for a dual boot - install Windows 7 on a separate disc or partition, so that if something goes wrong, you'll still have your original OS to work with. Windows 7 did seem to set up the dual boot nicely.
Suggestions for Microsoft:
1) the more recent drivers that are installed by Windows 7 may work. However, the drivers provided by the company that made the component may be better suited to the system, but not recognized as being that way by the Windows 7 system. Perhaps it would be a good idea to inform the person installing the system to refer to the manufacturer's website for an updated driver if the Windows 7 driver isn't working the way it should.
In the video card case, the Windows 7 driver was giving a framerate in Doom 3 of 20 - 30 FPS. The problem is that in the old installation (XP Pro 32bit), it was running at 60-70 FPS. Once I downloaded the Asus drivers (Vista 64, version 8592 dated March 3 2009) and forced an update through the Device Manager, the frame rate went back up to 60 - 70 FPS.
The various pieces of motherboard software for Asus would not load because of the ACPI utility - it would not be loaded. Again, I downloaded the ACPI utility from Asus and forced an install. The software still won't run, however the forced install did no damage.
2) At the time the disc first starts the install, the nice blue screen at the start seems to stay on a long time with no action. It almost looked like a program hang. This state lasted for 3 minutes, then the language customization screen appeared. Perhaps some sort of animation indicating that the install is proceeding would be good. From the time I got the message that the setup was starting to the time I got to the custom install screens, 7 minutes passed. A little animation here too would be good, to let the person doing the installation that the install was proceeding.
Comparisons between XP Pro 32 and Windows 7:
1) Lock On: Modern Air Combat works better on Windows 7. I don't know if this is because I'm using a 64 bit version of Windows or if Windows 7 is handling the program graphics better.
2) Standard MS Office XP / 2002 works just fine.
3) Networking system interface is different and if you don't know what you are doing, getting different computers with different OS 's is a bit of a chore. However, Windows 7 does have a nice appearance to it.
As for software: Office XP SP3 installed and ran fine, as did Photoshop 7, Lock On: Modern Air Combat, Novologic MiG29. Farstone Virtual Drive had to be updated to version 11. Adobe Acrobat Pro v.6 had issues: the port monitor wouldn't be installed but otherwise the install seems to work. Partition Magic works in the old version, had issues with the new version but still installed and >appears< to work. Stuffit version 9 deluxe installed fine.
So, as far as installing XP Pro 64 and Windows 7 ? I've preordered Windows 7, since I don't imagine that XP Pro 64 will be supported for much longer. I'm fine with that though - things seem to work just fine in Windows 7, other than those issues mentioned above. Better yet - it works with older hardware, though for graphics, my bet is that you will need a DX10 ready card at least.
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additional note: just for giggles, I installed an Asus EAH 4670 display board. Graphics performance went from 4.3 to 5.9. Doom 3 and Lock On are both rock solid in terms of frame rates.- Edited byAGrump Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:26 PM
- I like playing with Windows and explore new features and capabilities! For this reason, Windows 7 can provide everything I need: Less RAM consumption, Faster Gaming, Smoothness etc... I'll just wait for the final version in order to be sure that my PC will rock n roll! :P
Words that are used as comments for Windows 7 so far: Awesome, Fantastic, Fast, Smooth, Elegant... :D - As a user going back to Windows 3.1 I have always avoided any upgrade for the first 6-12 months and in the case of vista I only installed it a month ago! The reasons are historic, as MS stuff was always buggy and felt rushed and almost never worked out of the box! Their reputation was one of money before a reliable OS and had Linux taken off a bit earlier I dare say MS would be suffering right about now! Over the years I have probably installed 2-3 hundred OS from 3.1 to XP and even a couple of Vista when the system matched the ludicrous requirements... but then along came Win7!!! I can honestly say that for the first time EVER, MS have got it right! I have installed this on over a dozen systems going back to XP and even a ME version and in every single case it has installed seamlessly and done exactly what i wanted it to do! It has a 100% rate of speeding up a system and seems rock solid in each case. A clean install has never failed to complete and from the graphics to the drivers it is as smooth as anything I have ever seen. To date I have only had to find 2 drivers and these were easy to locate so no problems. BUT would I install it now with a view to keeping it right through to release??? I dont know! Historically MS tend to add silly things to the final release which invarioubly screws up the install.. Vista was a case in question, the pre release was a damned sight more stable than the final version and the Nvidia problems only really surfaced during the final and were not there during the pre... The stupid amount of 'genuine' checks and assorted active X inserts caused many a headache too! SO,, IF MS have learned a lesson from the past then this is the FIRST OS to offer just what we users want and need, but if they become paranoid or enter yet another silly mode then this excellent product may well fall to the levels of Vista and become yet another flop! The answer lies with MS I'm afraid so I wouldnt be too ready to throw away the old OS just yet..
- Proposed As Answer bydickdunbar Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:38 PM
- The reinstall of Win7 is working fine. Something I stumbled on has improved my disposition towards Win7.I tried to run "autologin" from the sysinternals site:And it failed, advising me to run this as administrator.Hmmm ... I am the administrator, is this another silly hang-on from the awful Vista daze?The wording or explanation could be improved here."run as administrator" is an option in Explorer, so ...Click "Download autologin" and not "Run autologin from Live.sysinternals.com"Then Right-Click the download, and select "Run as administrator".Just because you are in the Administrator Group doesn't mean you have the privileges of the position.
- > Jampit, dual boot wipeoutI had exactly the same experience. My machine has 6 hard drives, and 4 OS installs where my primary was WinXP64.I installed Win7 on a clean drive (not a partition), not thinking I should have to disable all my other drives for install.Silly me ... Win7 completely destroyed WinXP64, rendering it unbootable.I had a lot invested in WinXP64, but couldn't face another lost summer trying to recover it,so I switched to Vista 32-bit ... which came pre-installed on this HP 64-bit machine.I hate Vista, but haven't the energy to mess with it. It was much cleaner to buy a new machine(which also came with Vista 32), and install Win7 64-bit, which is running beautifully."Be careful out there" --- Hill Street Blues
I have an HP Deskjet F4100 all-in-one, and Windows 7 won't allow me to install it, because it's not compatible. It's a new printer too. Is there any way i can get around this? I can't be without a printer, but i'm really liking 7.
I'm running all of my HP printers fine on Win7. They do a pretty good job of keeping drivers current.Download the latest set of drivers ("Web Release") from the HP site, and be sure to select "run as administrator" from explorer.At least the only problems so far are connected with drivers and compatibility! Hmmm, that's nice I have to confess coz the OS is running perfectly and no other problem is encountered!
- I was able to install the Windows 7 Beta (Build 7000) and fell in love with it. However, the RC has been an absolute horrible expirence trying to install.
If anyone has any ideas how to resolve or can take a look at the logs for me I'd appreciate it:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itproinstall/thread/8f8ae92c-617b-405f-9a75-b335d744e5e4
Thanks in advance! - I almost posted this on a HP.com support forum. I'm hoping someone here will have a solution:
Same frustrating problems installing Windows 7 RC on a6600f. I ran the Beta (Build 7000) for months and loved the OS. I ended up destroying my MBR as well and having to order Recovery Disks from HP. Now I'm stuck with Vista as Windows 7 will not even install as a clean install on a formatted partition. I've tried using other support forums and showing my logs left in $WINDOWS.~BT\Sources\Panther but nobody seems to be able to point me in the right direction. I thought of upgrading the BIOS, but read other posts on this forum back in November of horror stories of unsuccessful upgrades and having to have the mother board flashed. Maybe it has something to do with the SATA controller or I need to load a driver in the Windows 7 install?
Here is a link to my documented strife on Microsoft technet:
- I've installed W7 RC on my Desktop computer (my Vista Home was running excellively slow and needed a re-formatting anyway). I only had 2 driver problems (1 printer and my soundblaster) but they were resolved. I love W7 so much - it's like having a brand new computer. Now I'm seriously thinking of installing it on my newer laptop (which is running just fine with VISTA). I'll wait at least another week before doing so - but am heavily leaning towards doing so - even if people are suggesting I don't do it.
- So far , runing windows 7 has been a Pleasure , yes it is still being worked on , but from an It perspective it is a very sound , well built system, Lots of Eye Candy makes it a bit heavy , ~ 30 Gb install , but worth it , and if you have a computer with and AMD Turion, most Athlon, and all Opteron , along with several Intel chips you can run XP in the Vertual machine , allowing almost any program to run , Save those that didn't work in XP ... IE some Old DOS stuff might not.
And can also if your inclined share back and forth using the Network (Home setup) to share even virtual drives from the XP Virt - Windows 7
and still be doing work in 7 ... A very powerful system , especially if you have a 64 bit Processor
As to faults , it is a new system , with many tricks and tidbits to learn -especially if like me you refused to touch Vista, for Vista users most is just old hat.
And as to fixing things , aside from the Reg edit command being changed it is very much a kin to 2000 NT and above (XP was built on 2000NT)
In short it works well , and is (RC7) for almost everyone ... If a glitch Scares you .. (Stay with XP ) :P
Also if you try to install Live Messenger ... it may fail on the first try .. try again , it normally goes by the second time at most - 22nd of october ...
- Go for it. You will love it it takes a week to complitly forget Vista!Same goes for Office 2010 if you get your hands on it keep it ! ;)Here is a Windows 7 videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWluZufBsKc
- Edited byWindows7full Tuesday, July 14, 2009 3:59 AM
why dont you guys stick with somthing for more than 2 years, every 2 years there is another windows version out that costs 2-300 bucks that most families in the US cannot afford, which is why certain people download pirated versions from torrents and P2P groups. Windows XP is by far the best release of windows that the company has produced. with new releases, most older games and programs cease to work correctly and people are forced to part with things that they are used to and love. have you ever heard the phrase "if it aint broke, don't fix it"? i used XP for a good while until like 3 different versions of vista came out, now this windows 7, and next year who knows.... now i use linux. anything ever written for linux will work on it. That is what sold me to them... the SUPPORT, somthing that microsoft has long forgotten. quit being so money hungry, don't you have enough? no matter how much you say "this version is better" there will ALWAYS be a spam of "security" updates or a new service pack to fix the errors that your team missed. If you guys took the time to develop like it should be developed, you'd have a stable release. You guys RUSH things drastically and cut corners, and in the end it hurts the consumer.... i mean, look at your 360, red ring of death speaks for itself.. nintendo, sega, sony.. they never had a problem... you guys did because you rush and release things before they are really ready to be.
A very powerful message to Microsoft!
Surf's Up, Dudes! Have a rad' summer! Brandon D. ------- Looks like some people will be able to start downloading the final release in Aug.
And will be shipping to computer retailers about the same time.
So if I was wanting To use Windows 7 now I would wait till the release.
The product is stable and worth the wait instead of having to reinstall over the beta version.
I preordered so got the cut rate price which was Awesome!
Love Windows 7 over vista it is the first operating system that really will stand up to the hype and be the foundation for better things to come like directx 11 and better memory use and faster processing.
Can't wait for my final copy have been really satisfied with the Beta version....love the Xbox interface and the speed over Vista.
Microsoft would not want you to upgrade from RC to RTM (final release), and I would strongly advise you to clean install Windows 7 RTM when it releases (Upgrade from Vista is absolutely fine, though).
Please do you know why i can't IM no one when i want to chat ?
However, if you really want to do an upgrade, follow the steps below. This works both for Beta-to-RC and RC-to-RTM upgrade.- Download the ISO and burn the ISO to a DVD.
- Copy the whole image to a storage location you wish to run the upgrade from (a bootable flash drive or a directory on any partition on the machine running the pre-release build).
- Browse to the sources directory.
- Open the file cversion.ini in a text editor like Notepad.
- Modify the MinClient build number to a value lower than the down-level build. For example, change 7100 to 7000 (pictured below).
- Save the file in place with the same name.
- Run setup like you would normally from this modified copy of the image and the version check will be bypassed.
http://www.baxiabhishek.info- Make Sure That Your PC Has All Of The Hardware Capabilitys, Before You Do Anything! ! !
Larry D. Hollenbeck - i am using windows 7 rc, no issues with it .the issue i faced was via hd fails ,it ran best in vista 32 bit with service pack 2
- not the problem the I have is.. when i try to install windows 7 the DVD says error code Ox80070017. ..and says the DVD have a missing file.. but I have been download this file like 3 time......
I need help...... because I cant test windows 7..
can you tell me who do you download windows 7 - I had that problem too...
http://www.windows7update.com/My-experience-with-Windows-7-RC-1.html
It worked out later though...
Onuora Amobi
http://www.windows7update.com
MJ - I have the RC running on two machines: A P4 3.06 GHz with 1 GB ram and an AMD Athon XP 2500+ running at 1.8 GHZ and a 1 GB Ram with a 32MB ATI all-in-wonder DVI video card with no major issues.. Really the only issue I have had has been the video drivers for the ATI card.. I have a 19 WS monitor and could not get it display the max res (1440 x 900). I tried everything I could think of so I went out on a limb and installed the XP!! drivers and it worked. I "borrowed" my WIN 7 HD and put it in a AMD Athon running at 1000 MHz with 640 megs of ram and the computer ran just fine on WIN 7.
The RC has run so stable on both my Pentium 4 and my Athon XP (and of course for a short time onthe Athon 1000 MHz) that I keep forgetting that the RC in all essence is still a beta. I have installed the RC on my two machines on HDs separate from the XP HDs. I install on my boot HDs only what in ABSOULUTELY required from the OS. It saves me from loosing valueable files if the drive crashs.
Neither computer can do the full Windows AERO experience but I wouldn't go back to XP unless I had to.
It would be nice if MS could find a way to make a stripped down version of Win 7 (ie Win 7 Lite) for those of us that have OLDER computers that are incompatible with Win 7, but still serve a usefull purpose in life. Most of the older computers have to deal with "orphaned" OS's like Win 98se or Win ME.
I would recommend Windows 7. If you don't want install the RC, then have to install the RTM in October then wait until the RTM comes out. Either way Win 7 is worth it. - i think windows 7 should be cheaper or free because of the econamy
phil - So true, this is not for the squeamish average computer user.This is really for those confident that they will not accidentally format their entire Photo library, or music collection.
- I like that idea....
Dental Billing is a way of life for me. Hopfully Windows 7 will make it eaiser and cheaper :) - I would like to point out. that if you follow directions and let the system do the work like in vista anyone can use this. I have been doing this from 1969 on a teletype on. still have all from DOS, 3.1, 98, NT to NT4, XP, Vista and Wonderful Windows 7. Thank You Microsoft. if it were not for Micrsoft we would still be in the stone age! if you have been in it as long as I have you will love it. if your like my dad who lives with us and his brain is almost gone, he can use Vista Ultimate I put on. and finds it easer to use Windows 7. It is organized so well he can find things. So it is not for the IT tech but what has been long comming a system anyone can use and not get lost. and if your an RC candt. then your responsibilty is to help get bugs found and out of the system. a free program its not! do your part. and if you read and open up your computer to the fixes things run 98% from the start to now I'm 100% up time.... so it is for everyone even newbe's they will read and follow instructions. and backups are always needed all the time from the start. you can get a 1.5 Tb drive that was science fiction when I started for under $150.00 and fit in your hand, I remember my first 5 Mb drive at AT&T the size of a truck had 2 coolers the size of semi truck front ends. The whole idea of windows was to make it so an ape could run the computer. windows 7 is so close now. to that SiFy. so to all reading this as newbe's back up your data twice and install it but follow all commands and say yes for windows to fix things. if your part of the test. if you have problems let the system try to work it out. I did and had no loss. was upset at what I read all NEG and over backed up everything. had a couple blue screens but kept letting windows make fixes to my machine. P.S. thats how they learn whats out there. you think they have every system in the world at microsoft office to test on. NO these are the test beds for BETA and the RC. and there fast some fixs came in the moment after reboot. but if you close them out your in for it. they can't help if you don't let them see the problem and you will keep getting the blue screen. Windows 7 should be called microsoft Wonderful program #7, or lucky #7. because we are all lucky to have the honor to test it and to use it. it was not that long ago all we could do was play PONG and Pac man. and back up on the new tech a audio tape. or floppy.
Good day to all and welcome to the 21st century Microsoft. - p.s. if you didn't get the hint keep logged on to the internet so the fixes come in. while there testing your machine. and if you have odd market parts you may need the drivers. but 7 will put in all thats needed to run. not tweek your system. run your system. you still need to tweek special hardware.
- well im downloading the rc now, gonna stick it on a backup pc just to see, have read alot of the post here with interest, i must admit that i understand betas etc and im not expecting to get a free copy when windows 7 comes out, nothing is free nowadays n if it is im suspicious
- Thanks for the warning.
- Win7 RC , i guess it is better than Vista, but this stuff is still a Release Candidate, its not like it'll make u breakfast n dinner, I'll wait until the Final Verion is released.
Win 7 Bet, Win RC, then Win 7 Final RC i guess.
Just tell when it starts making breakfast for people. - Don't know how many took advantage or the Microsoft offer of pre sale price but that was a deal!
And remember that Windows 7 will be using DirectX 11 which is much more advanced in Gaming but will be some time before games will take advantage of it.
Oct. 22nd is just around the corner so if you haven't installed it yet I would tell you to hold off till the final version.
I may be one of the few that liked Vista nut Windows 7 is 100% better in my thoughts and working with it over the last few months.
I'd say more refined than Vista
ATI/AMD will be the first card to support DirectX 11 and already have drivers in place.
They also plan on releasing new 5000 series card soon after Windows 7 is out which means you might get a good deal on the 4890 card.
I plan on building a new rig to go with my Windows 7 to take advantage of the performance with solid state drives.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-solid-state-drives-ssd,7717.html
So looking forward to the future and the possibilities yet to come.
- hi loyyholland .i can hepl you!
to those not comfortable with "technical" parts of installation: don't burn your hands to this and don't install the RC.
hi !
Remember too it is supposed as Evaluation Copy and it will expire some day and poof, there goes all your work and software!
My advice is to wait until the final release in upgrading unless you don't have important files or work to do on that pc or you can't cope with your curiousity....
Windows 7 is nice, it is an upgrade for Vista in fact not a real major upgrade in my knowledge.- how do you force install an operating system on an old Toshiba laptop Intel Pentium 3 877MHz processor with 128 MB RAM? Don't no one tell me its not gonna work. I just want to know how to force install an OS. I put in a Windows 7 RC 32bit and it said not enough RAM but i don't care. How do i force install it?
- ive been running windows 7 for about a month and a half,im running windows 7 ultimate x 64 i also have ax 32 ultimate version on my laptop i love it especial on my desktop im running a XFX GeForce 8200 Motherboard with a AMD athlon 64 x2 dual core 3.0g 6000+ processor, 8 gigs of DDR2 dualcore pc5400 800MHZ Ram ,runnin 3-500 gig satas ,1- 1 terrabite sata, & 2-320 gig satas,ive got built onboard video GPU ,1 gig of video memory,two pci express xfx geforce 8500 512mb each and both of them runin GPUs.and the only thing i have had a proplem with was friday i bought a sansa clip 8 gig mp3 playerd notter what ive done,hours on phone fri.night with sansa tech,s withdows 7 tech,and ahour with tech net before i gave upoh well i love my windows ultimate.awesome
- yes once theythe realese windows 7 ,all the oems ,betas,tester u get the idea after a certain date they deactivateand u will start up your computer and it will come on and say your windows 7 is no longer activated you have three days to purchase a activation code(key code) and if you dont by the 3rd day you wil turn on computer and it will start to load up and then it will either say no OS found or the version of windows 7 trial is over with you will have to purchase a key code or buy a dvd installer,or purchase some other version of windows,unless your runnin 6 hard drives and the one that was runnin a activated vista basic and just did a upgrade then when and if thers a problem u hust revert back to the vist right omg i hope im right
- I'm using this Win version since the earlist versions and that is a favourite of mine.
I liked the Windows 7 BitLocker to Go windows disk encryption tool for portable disks, external storage devices for example.
I can suggest the Windows 7 Problem Steps Recorder Tool (PSR) if you are a group of development and test teams.
And it is stable not yet any blue screen.
http://www.kodyaz.com http://www.eralper.com - october 22 2009 I am waiting for the release of my new os
- me too
- Proposed As Answer bybigmutt Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:26 PM
I am comfortable backing up my computer, reformatting drives, and burning ISO images. But I have no idea what partitions are, but i really want to try the RC out. Should I try it?
If you want to google search it and it come to a bozo's site with all this ____? No. How much ram you got, if at least 1.5 to 2 GB, then download Virtual PC and Install it then. Might not want to have to pay hundreds of dollars if you loose your previous OS.
Suhail has a good Idea too. But this is for those who might not have Two hard drives. There is also Virtual Box.
VWD 2008 Man- Isn't this the only operating system released to beta testing? Oh and answer feedback to BG(Bill Gates) if you want.
VWD 2008 Man - Yes.
- I have installed windows 7 RC and i can play COD4 COD5 etc have u tried silly things like updating your graphics drivers? Also u can always disable punkbuster or run in vista compatabilty mode.
- This is definitly a RAM isuue as you say. personally i think win 7 will run like a dream with at least 3GB RAM.
- have you tried thier website? HP are normally good with their Drivers and have a wide range of 7 drivers now. have you tried turning steup on vista compatability mode?
- I would just go and get the windows 7 pro and put that on my machine because there will be no other operating system in the windows department out there after the release.
Vista has met its match and the schools and all will go to 7 so save some time and trouble and upgrade to 7 you will be better off in the long run.
GREG - Aghh, accidentally clicked on the "Propose As Answer" icon, ignore my response.
The only problem I'm having is compatibility issues with some of my hardware/software. office 07 installed fine, but I couldn't reinstall my Norton 360- luckily i was redirected to their site where i could download a beta version of the new norton 360 which was made to be compatible with 7. My main issue, and the reason i may go back to Vista (although i hate it,) is that I can't install my printer. I have an HP Deskjet F4100 all-in-one, and Windows 7 won't allow me to install it, because it's not compatible. It's a new printer too. Is there any way i can get around this? I can't be without a printer, but i'm really liking 7.
I just went to HP's website for your printer and they have Windows 7 drivers available for download.- Hi,
I'd like to ask a question. I also have an AMD 3800+ machine. I've upgraded the memory to over 2 1/2 Gigs, because I thought that might be my problem.
I've downloaded and tried the 32 bit version, the 64 bit version and also the IT version. All with the same result - the computer, with any version of Windows 7
is so slow I would consider it unusable. Yet I have not seen, nor heard of any other comments about the poor operating speed. I do not understand why
my machine runs so slow.
Larry Morse - what is the clock speed of your computer? please give me some specifics on your computer.
- Of course you haven't heard of it running slow, or anything else remotely negative...MICROSOFT ANSWERS
Much like many of their sites, you have choices Vote as Helpful, but no vote as useless
or I like it, but no I didn't like it. So 5000 people click on I like it but you don't see the 50000 that may have had a negative experience.
- sooooo are you saying Windows 7 is bad?
- im ways i agree with u in others i dont lol. the reason Windows 7 "feels" quicker is beacuse it uses Windows display driver model 1.1 this model permits multiple apps to draw and update their graphics at once, whereas under the 1.0 model used in vista only a single process could draw to the screen at any one time. this is why vista could sometimes feel unresponsive. on windows 7, apps can update their windows as soon as you press a button. the system thus feels much faster, while benchmarks show windows 7 is actually 70% slower!!!!!
- umm... the RTM is out
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lY0_yIQM8Yyeah, windows 7 gets higher scores on benchmarks, that definitely means it is 70% slower (<-- sarcasm if you haven't noticed)
- I have an issue with windows 7 not reconizing my sound blaster live value sound card in any way at all. If you have any info on where to get drivers or any other way for me to get it installed to get my sound to work I will be most greatful. This is one of only 2 issues I have thus far with windows 7. Once those are resolved I think I am sold on this new os. The other issue is I can't seem to get my screen centered at all. I have looked everywhere for an adjust feature both on my lcd tv and my os but to no prevail. I know I must be overlooking that funtion somewhere but the sound as of now is the most important to me at this time. Please send any info to Email removed for privacy if you have any help for me. I know plenty of computers but with this it seems still I know not enough.lol. Thanks
- como puedo descargar windows 7 gratis en español¿¿
