Microsoft Freelancer on Windows Vista - VSync issueI ran into a problem trying to play Freelancer (v1.0) on my new Windows Vista System.<br/> I am certainly not able to deactivate VSync, my FPS are locked to 60. There's no ingame option and I've already set VSync to 'Always off' in my Catalyst Control Center, which worked fine on my old XP system. (I got about 170 FPS with an AMD Dualcore at 2x2.3 GHz)<br/> With Vsync though, the game encounters mouselag, which hardens playing.<br/> <br/> This is my System:<br/> - Windows Vista Home Premium 32 Bit Service Pack 2<br/> - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (4x2.4GHz)<br/> - Radeon HD 4850 (with Catalyst v9.6)<br/> - 3 GB Ram<br/> <br/> This seems to be a general issue with games running on DirectX8 or below in Vista.<br/> <br/> Regards, darealprof© 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:03:02 Z47b922f5-a094-474b-b892-3187c247192chttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistagaming/thread/47b922f5-a094-474b-b892-3187c247192c#47b922f5-a094-474b-b892-3187c247192chttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistagaming/thread/47b922f5-a094-474b-b892-3187c247192c#47b922f5-a094-474b-b892-3187c247192cdarealprofhttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=darealprofMicrosoft Freelancer on Windows Vista - VSync issueI ran into a problem trying to play Freelancer (v1.0) on my new Windows Vista System.<br/> I am certainly not able to deactivate VSync, my FPS are locked to 60. There's no ingame option and I've already set VSync to 'Always off' in my Catalyst Control Center, which worked fine on my old XP system. (I got about 170 FPS with an AMD Dualcore at 2x2.3 GHz)<br/> With Vsync though, the game encounters mouselag, which hardens playing.<br/> <br/> This is my System:<br/> - Windows Vista Home Premium 32 Bit Service Pack 2<br/> - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (4x2.4GHz)<br/> - Radeon HD 4850 (with Catalyst v9.6)<br/> - 3 GB Ram<br/> <br/> This seems to be a general issue with games running on DirectX8 or below in Vista.<br/> <br/> Regards, darealprofThu, 02 Jul 2009 12:50:33 Z2009-07-02T12:50:33Zhttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistagaming/thread/47b922f5-a094-474b-b892-3187c247192c#9abff67d-1af1-4038-9352-595966044202http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistagaming/thread/47b922f5-a094-474b-b892-3187c247192c#9abff67d-1af1-4038-9352-595966044202jlluitjhttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=jlluitjMicrosoft Freelancer on Windows Vista - VSync issueTry running the game for compatibility mode for XPThu, 02 Jul 2009 23:06:14 Z2009-07-02T23:06:14Zhttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistagaming/thread/47b922f5-a094-474b-b892-3187c247192c#4e03f363-1441-4afe-a204-105a11da86ebhttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistagaming/thread/47b922f5-a094-474b-b892-3187c247192c#4e03f363-1441-4afe-a204-105a11da86ebdarealprofhttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=darealprofMicrosoft Freelancer on Windows Vista - VSync issueDoesn't make a change. I'm also running i as administrator, no changes there.<br/> <br/> There is a DirectX8 to DirectX9 converter out (http://narod.yandex.ru/100.xhtml?boris-vorontsov.narod.ru/enbconvertor_dx8_dx9_v0014.zip), but it didn't help me either.<br/> <br/> Latest information I got, is that the latest Forceware Beta Drivers(185.66), which are unfortunately just for Nvidia graphic cards, fix the bug.<br/> Will ask Catalyst Support then. :SFri, 03 Jul 2009 11:44:31 Z2009-07-03T11:44:31Zhttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistagaming/thread/47b922f5-a094-474b-b892-3187c247192c#a613d4b9-20e9-4ede-8c17-5e07e47392dfhttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistagaming/thread/47b922f5-a094-474b-b892-3187c247192c#a613d4b9-20e9-4ede-8c17-5e07e47392dfChethan K - Microsoft Supporthttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Chethan%20K%20-%20Microsoft%20SupportMicrosoft Freelancer on Windows Vista - VSync issue<p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Hi darealprof,<br/></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br/>Thank you for writing to Microsoft Answers Vista Forums.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">You may try these steps:<br/>* I would suggest you to uninstall and re-install the display driver.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">* You may try to disabling the firewall.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">* Try to launch the game from Clean boot mode.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/331796">http://support.microsoft.com/kb/331796</a></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Let us know if that helps.</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"> </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Thanks and Regards, </span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Chethan Kumar.</span></p><hr class="sig">Microsoft Answers Support Engineer. Visit our Microsoft Answers Feedback Forum and let us know what you think.Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:57:51 Z2009-07-03T18:57:51Zhttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistagaming/thread/47b922f5-a094-474b-b892-3187c247192c#7b7287a3-747d-4652-897f-d24527d98f53http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistagaming/thread/47b922f5-a094-474b-b892-3187c247192c#7b7287a3-747d-4652-897f-d24527d98f53darealprofhttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=darealprofMicrosoft Freelancer on Windows Vista - VSync issueTried all of the solutions above, though none worked.<br/> I asked for this issue in the catalyst forums, I hope it can be resolved like nvidia obviously did.Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:06:12 Z2009-07-07T19:06:12Zhttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistagaming/thread/47b922f5-a094-474b-b892-3187c247192c#f6848484-f202-46aa-ae07-8ef4c0868e7fhttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistagaming/thread/47b922f5-a094-474b-b892-3187c247192c#f6848484-f202-46aa-ae07-8ef4c0868e7fChethan K - Microsoft Supporthttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Chethan%20K%20-%20Microsoft%20SupportMicrosoft Freelancer on Windows Vista - VSync issue<p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 10pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:115%"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Hi darealprof,</span></span></p> <span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:115%;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif'">After researching on the issue, I would recommend you to update the Direct X. You can download the Direct X from the link: <br/><a href="http://support.microsoft.com/gp/gms"><span style="color:#0000ff">http://support.microsoft.com/gp/gms</span></a> <br/><br/>This link speaks about the FAQ about Freelancer, I hope that might be helpful for you.<br/><a href="http://support.microsoft.com/freelancerfaq">http://support.microsoft.com/freelancerfaq</a><br/><br/>The <strong style="">KB 814552</strong> speaks about the system requirements to run Freelancer game.<br/><a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/814552">http://support.microsoft.com/kb/814552</a><br/><br/>Let us know if that helps. <br/><br/>Thanks and Regards, <br/>Chethan Kumar.</span><hr class="sig">Microsoft Answers Support Engineer. Visit our Microsoft Answers Feedback Forum and let us know what you think.Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:30:33 Z2009-07-14T16:30:33Zhttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistagaming/thread/47b922f5-a094-474b-b892-3187c247192c#4699091a-b3f1-4b42-93f1-becd2cb0ce03http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistagaming/thread/47b922f5-a094-474b-b892-3187c247192c#4699091a-b3f1-4b42-93f1-becd2cb0ce03darealprofhttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=darealprofMicrosoft Freelancer on Windows Vista - VSync issueI updated DirectX, didn't help. I also meet the system Requirements, except for my Windows Vista not being in the list of supported OS.<br/> I have also searched the FAQ for suiting problems, but found no solution.<br/> Another hint that maybe help: I ran Half Life 2 Episode 2 yesterday, getting an average of 140 FPS without any issues.<br/> <br/> I believe that this vsync issue maybe occurs because of the interaction between DirectX8 and the graphics driver. As no DirectX 8 game I know has an option for disabling/enabling vsync in the ingame menu, the mistake might be somewhere there.<br/> I remember that I played without vsync a long time when I had a Radeon 9000 Pro on an even older PC with XP. Then a driver update suddenly brought vsync and I had to disable it in the driver. When I finally got Vista with a new PC some weeks ago, disabling it per driver didn't work anymore.<br/> <br/> There are two options now: either ATI solves the issue per driver as Nvidia did, or there is some hidden setting in Windows which helps me ^^<br/>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:37:30 Z2009-07-17T12:37:30Zhttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistagaming/thread/47b922f5-a094-474b-b892-3187c247192c#35104528-0de5-4829-bfba-24dead1ab828http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistagaming/thread/47b922f5-a094-474b-b892-3187c247192c#35104528-0de5-4829-bfba-24dead1ab828Chethan K - Microsoft Supporthttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Chethan%20K%20-%20Microsoft%20SupportMicrosoft Freelancer on Windows Vista - VSync issue<p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 10pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:115%"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Hi darelprof,</span></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style="margin:0in 0in 10pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:115%"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Try to send the report of the Direct X from your computer. That might help us.<br/>- Click on Save Information button in the Direct X Diagnostic Tool window.<br/>- You may upload the saved file in skydrive.<br/></span><a href="http://www.skydrive.live.com/"><span style="color:#0000ff;font-family:Calibri">www.skydrive.live.com</span></a><br/><span style="font-family:Calibri">- After uploading the file, you may paste the link in the post.<br/><br/><br/>Meanwhile, I would suggest you to create a System Restore Point and then uninstall the graphic drivers and re-install.<br/>Also try re-installing Direct X 10 by downloading it from the link: <br/><span style="font-size:11pt;color:#1f497d;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><a href="http://www.microsoft.com/games/en-US/AboutGFW/Pages/DirectX10-a.aspx"><span style="color:#0068cf">http://www.microsoft.com/games/en-US/AboutGFW/Pages/DirectX10-a.aspx</span></a><br/></span><br/>Let us know if that helps.<br/><br/>Regards, <br/>Chethan Kumar.</span></span></p><hr class="sig">Microsoft Answers Support Engineer. Visit our Microsoft Answers Feedback Forum and let us know what you think.Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:14:29 Z2009-07-22T16:14:29Zhttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistagaming/thread/47b922f5-a094-474b-b892-3187c247192c#22dac32c-036c-4e6c-9d37-b174942821c2http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistagaming/thread/47b922f5-a094-474b-b892-3187c247192c#22dac32c-036c-4e6c-9d37-b174942821c2Percunohttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=PercunoMicrosoft Freelancer on Windows Vista - VSync issueUse the softmodded drivers from techpowerup.com, their CCC has always been better at forcing VSync settings despite application behaviour.<br/> <br/> You can also get utilities (such as RivaTuner) that give even better control over any ATI card, including on-the-fly overclocking as well as stress testing.<br/> <br/> My condolences for having chosen an ATI card.<br/> <br/> <br/>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:03:02 Z2009-08-20T05:06:04Z