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  • Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:32 PMStephen BootsMVP, ModeratorUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
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    If you mean to install on WHS, no. WHS is a server operating system, specifically Windows Server 2003.
    http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/msestart/thread/2294e7a2-81a0-49f7-8646-9caef8debd75
    -steve
    Microsoft MVP Windows Live / Windows Live OneCare, Live Mesh, & MS Security Essentials Forums Moderator
     
  • Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:34 PMkimck99 Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
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    Yes, to install on WHS.

    Will there be a version to support WHS in the future?

    Thanks!

     
  • Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:39 PMStephen BootsMVP, ModeratorUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
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    I doubt it, but never say never, of course. Search the forum for "Home Server" to see a few other discussions on the topic in addition to the thread I linked to in my previous reply. In that thread, I've offered my opinion on why you don't need to bog down WHS with antivirus protection.
    -steve
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  • Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:43 PMkimck99 Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
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    Thanks Steve for your quick reply. I did check out the link and appreciate your view on Home Server protection.

     
  • Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:36 AMCameron Harris Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
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    Is this really just another way of saying "I don't know"?  If it's a WHS vNext candidate enhancement (or not), that would be nice to know.

    Whilst I appreciate that's it's your opinion that AV is unnecessary on a server, I (and others, from a commercial as well as residential standpoint, from my research) disagree with you.

    C!
     
  • Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:16 PMStephen BootsMVP, ModeratorUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
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    Cameron, you are welcome to disagree with my opinion. :-) I understand why some would want to install a/v software on WHS.
    The answer to the question is - no, MSE will not install on WHS today. There has been no announcement of future plans for MSE on WHS. We have heard that the next version of WHS will be based on Server 2008 64 bit. Since Server 2008 and Vista/7 are part of the same core family, it seems that MSE should be easily ported to that platform. However, nothing has been announced.
    -steve
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  • Monday, December 07, 2009 11:27 PMtony_anon Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
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    When is a server not a server....when it is Windows Home Server. If anyone has got or looked the curent range of HP xxxxSmart Servers of EX4xx/X5xx type which use WHS...HP has seen fit to provide McAfee as a buy-in option. Why still no MS security essentials as an alternative? T
     
  • Tuesday, December 08, 2009 4:59 AMRob KochMVP, ModeratorUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
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    Because along with needing to provide different drivers than any currently produced for any exisiting client version of MSE, they'd also need to provide support for different types of applications and in theory, also viruses.

    The fact that WHS server uses an entirely different kernel, drivers and runs a completely different set of applications as a result means that if it existed, this application would share very little with the current client version of MSE.  This would create a large amount of support overhead for a much smaller return in terms of number of potential users than any of the existing clients supported.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not against this happening eventually, I just don't think it's likely at least until a new version of WHS is released, most likely developed from the same base as Windows 2008 (R2?), much of which is also shared with Windows Vista SP2.  This at least would provide a similar driver structure, kernel and also theoretically similar applications and malware, though server malware is often somewhat unique.

    If you're wondering why McAfee supplies AV for WHS, it's simple, it increases the potential market for their already existing product that serves the commercial Windows 2003 server line.  Though Microsoft also provides an AV product for this line, it belongs to the commercial Forefront products group and is positioned (read 'priced'), for the enterprise market.  Since this group is independent of those developing the consumer MSE product, a WHS version would probably need to be designed separately from the ground up, so it would also need to have a future life with a new version to make the development cost worth the effort.

    Rob