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  • Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:46 PMefjay Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    I was wondering if there will be a version of Security essentials for Windows Home Server. Thanks.
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  • Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:55 PMKevin64A Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
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    This product is directed squarely at desktop operating systems.  Windows Home Server is based on Windows Server 2003 R2, so I doubt there will be a version of Security Essentials released for that platform.

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  • Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:53 PMKevin HauMSFT, ModeratorUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Hi Efjay,

    That's a pretty good question!  Have you already tried installing the 32 bit Vista or 32 bit XP versions of Microsoft Security Essentials on the Home Server OS?  Did you get an error message of some sort?

    I personally don't have a Home Server machine to test with, but I would love to hear the results if you want to give it a shot.

    I hope this helps.

    Kevin
  • Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:55 PMKevin64A Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
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    This product is directed squarely at desktop operating systems.  Windows Home Server is based on Windows Server 2003 R2, so I doubt there will be a version of Security Essentials released for that platform.
  • Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:01 PMKevin64A Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    That said, it very well *may* install (the Vista or Windows 7 version) and work...
  • Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:55 PMefjay Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Thanks, I know its for desktops but it seems its unavilability for WHS is following the current theme for MS products, they seem to be released lacking integration with other MS products. WHS is designed for the HOME user so why not extend MSE to WHS? Seems it would be a good complement to the desktop versions where it can act as an updte server. It just puzzles me why so many MS products seem to be intentionally incompatile with each other or restricted in some way that requires you to pay more for functioanlity thought to be included or expected.

    However I did try to install the XP and Vista 32bit versions on my WHS and it failed saying my OS was too old and I cant run the exe in compatibility mode as the option is grayed out.

    Thanks anyway for the answers.
  • Tuesday, June 23, 2009 7:18 PMJbenisek Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    I would vote for this.
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  • Friday, September 04, 2009 4:01 PMdxtrmoo Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    "requires you to pay more "

    You answered your own question.
  • Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:59 PMEstin Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    I was supprised it would not install. I think most would assume it would. It is silly for Microsoft to not offer MSE on WHS. It is an obvious fit.
  • Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:38 PMStephen BootsMVP, ModeratorUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    I was supprised it would not install. I think most would assume it would. It is silly for Microsoft to not offer MSE on WHS. It is an obvious fit.

    Why? You really don't need virus scanning on the server - it is a server. Files accessed from PCs in the network have protection. Files placed on the server into a Share can't run on the server (with the exception of add-ins, of course), unless you choose to (unwisely) log onto the server directly as admin or via RD to execute code. In that case, you may want security installed, but you'll be paying for a server package. MSE does not run on *any* server OS.
    -steve
    Microsoft MVP Windows Live / Windows Live OneCare, Live Mesh, & MS Security Essentials Forums Moderator
  • Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:36 PMJbenisek Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     

    try creating a shortcut to the setup then they wont be grayed out.


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  • Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:40 PMJbenisek Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    What about remote backup and restore, live mesh and cloud based services that might sync content from my cell phone which no AV covers to my server for backup or sync to other pc's, there are more and more issues like this. Small but if you use your server to download content like podcast or other files as most people do you want to make sure it's safe. I could careless about my workstations, the data on the server is critical.
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  • Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:16 AMmcnabney Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Another obvious example of Microsoft teams failure to think outside of the box or to work together. It is an obvious conclusion that a computer that serves as a backup or as a central repository should absolutely have virus/malware protection. Data duplication does nothing if some nasty software gets in. And since remote access is a feature you can hardly consider a WHS box as being protected by the malware detection software on networked workstations. Back to Avast.
  • Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:24 AMStephen BootsMVP, ModeratorUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    The data on the server is just that - data - until you act on that data. If you sync the data from a phone to the server and to other PCs in Live Mesh, for example, or even manually copy the data, it will not and cannot infect the server. Yes, the data may contain an infection and that infection will come over to other devices. However, if the PC accessing the infected data file is protected, it will catch the infection as the data loads. If the file on the server is an exe file and you execute it from the server to the PC, once again the local protection should catch and stop it.
    Yes, you are better protected if you physically scan all files on the server in real time and perhaps even on a schedule to be doubly sure. Personally, I'll rely on the local protection on the PC and let my WHS box be a smart storage device and remote access gateway.
    -steve
    Microsoft MVP Windows Live / Windows Live OneCare, Live Mesh, & MS Security Essentials Forums Moderator
  • Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:24 AMStephen BootsMVP, ModeratorUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     

    try creating a shortcut to the setup then they wont be grayed out.


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    Not sure what you mean by this.
    -steve
    Microsoft MVP Windows Live / Windows Live OneCare, Live Mesh, & MS Security Essentials Forums Moderator
  • Friday, December 11, 2009 1:28 AMcsclou Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
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    Thankis Mr B.  You have not only fully answered my concerns about WHS security.  I was wondering how a router could pass viruses to its connected server and WHS client PCs.  Thanks again for the peace of mind, which is worth more than I can express.  You answered my earlier question about whether MSE can be used on WHS.  Now with your answers to Efjay I clearly see that I am protected.
    • Proposed As Answer bycsclou Wednesday, December 23, 2009 7:51 PM
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  • Monday, December 28, 2009 6:59 AMSteve Smegner Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Security essentials says it is for consumer protection. WHS is tagged a consumer SKU meaning it has consumer level support and lifecycle. Therefore Security Essentails should support WHS. They are blocking it via the installer. Forefront also does not support WHS. So this leaves WHS as a kind of a ____ product when it comes to security.

    Now the weak claim is that WHS is just a server / repository and a client has to act on the data for anything to happen. OK, using that logic why would MSFT create a special version for Exchange and Sharepoint? I mean after all they are basically repositories for clients as well. Exchange certainly would not execute an in bound binary so the client should do all the work of detecting and blocking malware.

    Somehow I suspect that WHS is enough if an aberration that MSFT will likely kill off the product line rather than make a version off of the WS08 codebase.
  • Monday, December 28, 2009 11:51 PMsecurity essentials on a server Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Peter Norton has to have something to do!!!
  • Monday, January 11, 2010 5:16 AMRob KochMVP, ModeratorUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Peter Norton has to have something to do!!!

    Peter Norton sold his business to Symantec in 1990 and hasn't had anything to do with it since, it simply carries the name.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_AntiVirus#Windows_edition

    Rob