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Will Photo Gallery and Movie Maker be included in Windows 7?
- I heard they're going away. What do I do if I use them today?
- Moved byGeorgio - Support Engineer Friday, October 02, 2009 7:42 PM (From:Getting Ready for Windows 7)
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- From 7tester:
They won't be included in the final versions of Windows 7. This is because Microsoft is trying to get away from cluttering a users machine and making the assumption that they will use their suites. In this way, you can download what you want for free and use it to your heart's content. The best part is that they're all now apart of the Live service so they all "talk" to each other. You can get them from http://download.live.com
Another community answer from MSN QnA- Marked As Answer bySteve Alter Thursday, April 30, 2009 7:14 PM
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- From 7tester:
They won't be included in the final versions of Windows 7. This is because Microsoft is trying to get away from cluttering a users machine and making the assumption that they will use their suites. In this way, you can download what you want for free and use it to your heart's content. The best part is that they're all now apart of the Live service so they all "talk" to each other. You can get them from http://download.live.com
Another community answer from MSN QnA- Marked As Answer bySteve Alter Thursday, April 30, 2009 7:14 PM
- thats good and all, but not quite the "out of the box experience" many enjoy. but you had to to it because people complained.
I heard they're going away. What do I do if I use them today?
Switch to Google's Picasa. It is awesome!!! Much better than Windows (Live) Photo Gallery.- Proposed As Answer byArlen Minas Saturday, August 01, 2009 5:50 PM
- Unproposed As Answer byKevin - Support EngineerMSFT, ModeratorThursday, November 19, 2009 2:47 AM
- I'm sure Microsoft wants to include it. However, other companies felt it was a monopoly and caused much grief (antitrust lawsuits) over including the other software. The result is the Windows Live Services no longer being included in the default OS install.
- Proposed As Answer byginez Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:35 AM
- all that buzz for what... (ok, maybe that's why windows 7 is faster and lighter than Vista or XP)
why go live? All these apps could very well be put as stand alone! They are already there. Why trash em all out that way? Is it all that impossible to have them all each separated?
If anyone wants to go live, well they simply go with windows live if it is all that great for them!
But if I want movie maker, photo gallery and also windows media player 11 to clutter my PC (as microsoft say!), why can't I have those as stand alone for Windows 7? (or even for Vista) Why not do the same with Internet Explorer? (just like the good old days as it too was a stand alone product) Besides, windows live mail is just what it is. Every time I decide to start the app, it wants to do everything (start,connect,display etc...) as it if was for yesterday, when it barly has the speed to do it for tomorrow. Sorry, but it the closest to the truth I can get. And I'm feeling more being impose the "windows live" approche rather than having a real choice to what I'd like to keep or choose. I guess we haven't won any speed or choice after all when seriously looked at!
thx
As with everything in life, good thing bad thing, help comes to you when you least expected it, but also because we asked for it. - Microsoft needs to do a lot of work on overhauling Windows Live Movie Maker, because right now it's the biggest turnoff to Live Services.
- You hit the nail on the head wanderson9. I don't care if MovieMaker comes with the OS or as a "Live" service but the Windows Live version is a watered down piece of junk compared with the version that came with Vista. Microsoft's excuse that they wanted a cleaner simpler app is garbage. MM in Vista was simple to use but had an impressive feature list for its footprint. Windows Live MM is simple to use because it has no features worth speaking of.
Thus endeth the rant.- Proposed As Answer byCapt. Aero Thursday, September 10, 2009 5:00 AM
- Exactly. When my dad asked me if he could through together a picture CD for a party that had already started, I showed him Movie Maker and he made his own slideshow DVD with menu and everything in 10 minutes including burn time.
I've tried the new live edition and it is literally USELESS. It also makes microsoft's ad campaign (the one where people use vista to do things they never knew they could do) a complete waste of money and very misleading as within a year of seeing that ppl can buy a new windows 7 PC and NOT have those features. - Also, What about DVD Maker... that is basically an essential part of MovieMaker and actually was way cooler than Nero's offering. But, w/o DVD Maker, Nero will be a necessary part of any system.
- Windows Live Movie maker does not deserve the "beta" tag. It really should't even deserve an "alpha" tag. Its just a rough draft on the drawing board in my eyes.
- amen. No time line view. How are you susposto "MAKE" a movie with out time line view. The programs name is Movie MAKER. You MAKE movies by rearaging the time. duh
- You got to be kidding me. Nero is far mkore advanced then DVD maker.
- The idea is to have everything connected, but your right for some, they don't want that and Microsoft needs to understand that
- Windows Live Movie Maker needs a real overhaul...its not good to see a strippeddown version of a product in an advanced OS like Windows 7...
Moviemaker should be re-coded and bring it atleast as it was in like Vista..Many customers use Movie maker to make a CD & a movie of the photos they take.. - I find that Windows Live Movie Maker sucks, but you can download Windows Movie Maker 2.6 For Windows Vista and Windows 7 from Microsoft Download. I used Movie Maker alot on Vista. I use 7 now and downloaded 2.6 and it works like a charm.
- Steve you work at microsoft. you should know this stuff
- +1
the name is movie MAKER. meaning, you need timeline view to MAKE the movies. - Thats what I did. might be a bit out dated with XP era icons, but for now its better then nothing till microsoft wakes up and starts fixing the new version. (and that does not mean, expire the current beta, and then have the same one just under a new bulid number with no new features whats so ever.
- Hi Chris,
Windows movie maker WILL be updated..they are recoding it...so we can expect a nice to use product for sure.
Check out the link below
(http://windowslivewire.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!2F7EB29B42641D59!41131.entry?sa=246117808) - For all those guys disappointed like me
There are links available to download the vista movie maker to windows 7 !!!!!
Yup some go0d guy compiled it to a stand alone !!!!
If u want , just ask - i am asking
- I also ask... Can be great to install the WIndows Movie Maker on 7...
And I agree to all the above about the necesity of Windows Movie Maker in Windows 7.
The live version is just a huge dissapointment.
Even doesn't have a proper import feature, but only through a hidden button in the Live Picture Gallery - I mean... Does this make sense to anyone out there? When you want to import your movie from the DV Camera, open Live Picture Gallery then choose add... - In other words they want to build a fake Linux that crashes on cue and sell it for $150. Look at W7 next to Freespire and tell me I'm wrong. Since Microsoft has been working closely with Xandros anyway they should license Xandros3, recode Microsoft apps. for it and remove the package manager. Then W7 wouldn't be a BSOD in Linux clothing. This is likely the plan for W7se, to go on sale after selling the current ____ for 10 years.
- Well, you can plug the multimedia holes with open source software.
- Since the original Movie Maker has been scrapped altogether, it should be opensource. I've tried to argue the point to no avail.
- @ People discussing Live Movie Maker
The software is being provided for free. it's also in Beta which means it's not done. Bug fixes and features could be changed or added at any time.
"Windows Live Movie Maker is the best way for everyday people to create stunning 5-minute movies with minimal time investment and share them online immediately."
If you need more features, you can always pay for a commercial software package or try finding another free solution that does what you want.
Does anyone know of an OS that comes with a free movie making software? I see Apple's iLife (contains iMovie) costs ~$80.
I've never seen any Linux solutions yet.
@decozart:
Perhaps you don't understand...
Microsoft is primarily not an open source business. This is their choice and it is a WORKING business model. In time as technology changes, maybe Microsoft will move to using some Open Source software, but that day seems to be a bit further into the future than the life of Windows 7.
Windows is made to be an OS that just works on common hardware. Sure there are plenty of other architectures and systems where Windows does not work but this is a tiny fraction compared to the total number of standard Windows based machines running.
Pretty much all of the NT technology (NT4 - Windows 7) has been stable IF your hardware works properly and the drivers were stable. Microsoft's online crash analysis showed only a small % (<5% if I recall correctly) were actually caused by errors in Windows code. The rest were because of third party drivers. In comparison, there are just as many (if not more) fixes in the linux kernel where a kernel panic (Linux 'BSOD') is fixed.
If you focus on just the working features of Linux, OS X (Darwin *nix), and NT 5-6 (XP-7), the features and abilities of the technology is all very similar. Now it's more of what works with your hardware and what you are familiar with. Also, there is the issue of compatibility.
No one is forcing you to use the OS or the optional components. If you want to use a free/open source solution, go for it. However, for those other people that are not well versed in technology and have no idea how to code or patch thier multimedia software, an easy system like Windows or OS X is their best option.
A thought I just had...
At some time, a fresh full retail copy of XP Professional was about $300. If you used XP for 5 years (XP is now 7 years old and still being supported and updated by Microsoft), that would mean you have paid $5 a month to use Windows. Considering the business, entertainment, and personal value; is this too still too much $? Dude, the Fake Linux can be redirected to RedHat Corperation, since they sell RedHat Enterprise Legally, but you're absoloutly right on they CHANGING THE CODES FOR MONEY. Really? They changing the codes is ok but making Windows 7 into a disaster is VERY NOT OK!!! Becides, my Mom wanted Microsoft to do a very good job on Windows 7, but I guess i'll have to tell her the you know what.
I'm upset with Microsoft, and seriously, it really is a "forced to be popular" Site.P.S. If you are tired of Microsoft in your way, Download different Linuxes here:
RedHat Linux Download Site
Ubantu/Debian Linux Download Site
Other Linuxses
-Computer Help
- Proposed As Answer byLIVGOOD Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:16 PM
- I think most posts here are omitting the notion that corporations that buy TONS of computers don't want the photo and video software on their systems. These software packages are really consumer grade tools. I can say that because I use the pro versions of these types of programs. They are great for home use but don't really have a place in business.
When MS is talking about streamlining, I don't think they are talking about streamlining MovieMaker, they are talking about streamlining the OS. The primary job of the OS is provide a stable work environment for the software as efficiently as possible.
By cutting some of these functions out of the core install and making them optional they are addressing the efficiency part of the equation.
I think a good compromise might be to just ask if someone wants those things added on an install. A simple prompt of , "Would you like to add photo and video abilities as part of your Windows 7 experience?"
Same thing for mail and whatnot. This might all make installation a two step process to accomodate OEM. I mean HP can't ask what you want on a computer when they build it. But an application you run when you get it home could. Maybe incorperate it into the registration process?
Dunno. - I'm nor sure if you guys are aware... in the interim, while they are fixing Windows Live Movie Maker, you can sort of run Movie Maker on Windows 7 by downloading it here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=D6BA5972-328E-4DF7-8F9D-068FC0F80CFC&displaylang=en
Not sure why this was created for Windows Vista. It resembles the Windows XP version... but at least it gets the job done. - Right now I run Ubuntu-dual boot with XP-and in Ubuntu I have "open movie editor" "avidemux" "kino" "cinalerra" for video editing. I have "audacity" sound editor, "zynaddsubfx" synthesizer, "screencast" "devede" dvd creator, and "brasero" disk burner. Cost $0 and is absolutely intuitive use. Ubuntu is supported and anything I care to add is also free. Ubuntu is clearly the winner value wise. Most of my Linux software would (should) work seemlessly in Windows with Xandros' crossover program. I cannot get viruses on Ubuntu but if I just want to be paranoid, "klamAV" is also free. I've installed Ubuntu on K7, athlon, and pentium processors all successfully. Microsoft being a commercial enterprise should know that with so many well-written, user-friendly, free OS's out there $150 is entirely too much to ask. Microsoft could only benefit from including open-source software. Instead Microsoft is banking on Linux never becoming mainstream. In short if Windows wants to remain a viable competitor to the Linux competition the OS will have to be far better than W7.
- What is your point? We are talking about Windows Movie Maker in Windows 7. This is NOT another Windows-Linux debate. We are also NOT discussing other 3rd party editing tools on Windows... free or otherwise. We are talking about Windows Movie Maker. Argh!
- Ha! That's my reply! :-)
Jonathan Matthis aka "7tester" on MSN QnA
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http://windows 7qna.ning.com Ok ignoring all the non-thread related posts; let us get back to the point of this thread. The link that everyone keeps passing around is a modified version of the XP Movie Maker that Microsoft gives for people who are running Vista on systems that cannot run the normal Movie Maker (most likely machines that cannot run Aero). A better method and one I use is to just copy the program folder for Movie Maker from Vista to 7. The capture tools and the ‘send to DVD Maker’ do not work unfortunately. However, for capture you can use Windows Media Encoder for most capture scenarios and 7 has its own DVD Maker that you can import the video into.
Bill Gates look out!- Proposed As Answer byBill Gates II Sunday, July 19, 2009 7:56 PM
- picasa UI and experience is better than live photo gallery but features r not better than live ! its some uncomfortable
- To be honest I like the way Photo Gallery in vista looked, and even run. The Windows Live Photo Gallery has a ton of UI bugs, no more glass controls, and the over all look is less appealing then the vista one.
picasa UI and experience is better than live photo gallery but features r not better than live ! its some uncomfortable
So if picasa is better use it, you are not forced to use Windows Live Movie Maker are you. I am suprised so many people winge, the great thing is you get the choice and decide. What should Microsoft do, make Movie Maker just like Adobe Premiere Pro. No because its free and for your basic user. Advanced users who require advanced features should buy advanced software.
Also in my opinion Microsoft do not ship most products anymore with Windows due to many companies moaning that it is affecting them in some sort of way.
Do I see anybody moaning about the iPhone only have Google and Yahoo for search as default??? No, I aint. If I was Microsoft I would just basically stop selling to Europe, the see how we cope without the most popular OS.
Give Microsoft a break, as if it was not for Microsoft I doubt we would all know computers as they are today (or use). And come on if an average user tried to use Linux they would fail badly. Its a terrible OS, as it was not designed for all types of user, unlike Microsoft OS's which are.
Keep up the great work Microsoft and we'll be using your OS's for years to come.I'm sure Microsoft wants to include it. However, other companies felt it was a monopoly and caused much grief (antitrust lawsuits) over including the other software. The result is the Windows Live Services no longer being included in the default OS install.
I for one applaud MS for not including Live or Movie Maker, etc.
I very seldom if ever used them and if I don't need them or want them, it's my choice now.
Not to have them cluttering up my start bar and the like.
I use to use the many Flavours of Linux. But now I'm a PC.....- que me alluda con este problema
por que me sale esto en algunas fotos "Visualizador de fotos de windows no puede abrir esta imagen por que photo viewer no admite este pormato de archivos o no tiene las actualizaciones mas recientes de photo viewer"
y las fotos que uero abrir son formato jpeg.
ken tiene una respuesta parami. A new version of updated windows live move maker is on the way..and it shud be atleast available during holiday season (such that Windows 7 will be in GA (general availablity)...
check a sneak blog here...
http://www.liveside.net/main/archive/2009/08/18/livesino-gets-a-sneak-peak-at-new-windows-live-movie-maker.aspx- It might be true that MS is not including MM(and others) in W7 due to the fear of antitrust laws but i am tempted to suggest them that why not ask the user during purchase time(if they are buying a PC with pre installed windows) that whether he would like these softs(why not make most of the windows live apps available also as stand alones) to be included or not and MS can include a dialogue box during install time wherein we have the option to select and install windows live apps as stand alone apps on our PC.
i think this might just help the world.- Proposed As Answer byParth Mittal Sunday, August 23, 2009 6:50 PM
- i been never using windows mail or outlook but movie maker is that simple thing i been needed and withing long time mm was in development (beta )
instaed of this new one mm , win xp and vista was workin good or not working at all for some unkown to me reasons , so i istalled all of them at once
for now , it seem like mm live was out and the main thig i like it for , is the auto fit function lol, and at 1st time use i was wondering where time line went to
btw
lots of hand made / self made youtube videos made with use of movie maker so that why this " product ' is popular , it can mix photos and audio and nothing more than this " very hard to handle " process - I find Windows Movie Maker to be quite good--after a substantial learning curve, mostly for workarounds and full understanding of hidden capabilities.
Now, like many others, I have bought a HD camera and must come to terms with AVCHD. WMM doesn;t support AVCHD.
Apparently, Windows Live MM support's AVCHD--but wont work with Vista. You must upgrade to W7.
Meanwhile, I can learn little about WLMM. It sounds dumbed-down. There's the usual information vacuum.
I recall the disaster that switching to Vista was the very month it made its debut. I will not be a beta-tester of Windows 7, and of WLMM.
Sad. WMM was really a gem, and I spent three years mastering it . There're really no solutions to my issues.
Enjoy any currency you have with any program. Soon you, and it, will be obsolete.
Do you know that Windows 7 replace Windows Photo Gallery with Windows Photo Viewer? Almost as good but without the Add to Gallery part and Windows Live Movie Maker works great, or try copying Windows Movie Maker into Windows 7 from Vista. Office Picture Manager is great too. OR use Windows Virtual PC if your PC supports it.
- Proposed As Answer byHelp, I need Sunday, September 06, 2009 5:22 PM
- Edited byHelp, I need Sunday, September 06, 2009 5:23 PM
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- You could do what I plan to do: dual boot Vista and Windows 7. I used Movie Maker just the other day and I would miss it.
- This was the same reaction I had to this almost useless little rudimentary program. Windows Live Movie Maker is no more than a joke, to any half-serious videomaker. On the other hand, Windows Movie Maker 6 for Vista has many options that aren't apparent, until you download the program that allows you to make custom settings and expand the publishing parameters. If there is no way to have WMM 6 in Windows 7, then I won't have any interest in the new OS.
Steve McDonald - If you like older versions of windows movie maker you can move them over from your previous xp or vista installation.
Good god. Am I the only one who has tried that?? If you like older versions of windows movie maker you can move them over from your previous xp or vista installation.
Good god. Am I the only one who has tried that??
I did thank you very much...
Ok ignoring all the non-thread related posts; let us get back to the point of this thread. The link that everyone keeps passing around is a modified version of the XP Movie Maker that Microsoft gives for people who are running Vista on systems that cannot run the normal Movie Maker (most likely machines that cannot run Aero). A better method and one I use is to just copy the program folder for Movie Maker from Vista to 7. The capture tools and the ‘send to DVD Maker’ do not work unfortunately. However, for capture you can use Windows Media Encoder for most capture scenarios and 7 has its own DVD Maker that you can import the video into.
Bill Gates look out!
Bill Gates look out!- I've installed Ubuntu on my backup computer and while it has potential, it doesn't even handle my mouse wheel properly and there are no drivers for the display I have (although it works using the generic driver). It can't even handle MP3s or JPGs. Linux is not a product that is ready for the masses.
In short if Windows wants to remain a viable competitor to the Linux competition the OS will have to be far better than W7.
Actually, I think the opposite is true. If Linux wants to be a better competitor to Windows (since Windows has 90% of the market), it needs to become more user friendly, support more hardware, and have more supported commercial applications. As it is, its just a curiosity. Maybe cloud computing will help when that becomes viable, but I don't see Linux making any inroads and if Win7 is a hit as it may be, then Linux will have its work cut out for it. There were some Linux netbooks that were released and they did not sell. Linux is not a system for the masses yet and it has a long way to go.I'm not a coder but its probably easier to update those programs when there not built in. I think in windows xp the movie maker was not updated till the first service pack came out. those programs were probably not built in for the same reason you now have a choice during the install for which browser you want to use. the EU crys and throse fits a lot everytime microsoft releases a new OS or a program.
For all those guys disappointed like me
i want
There are links available to download the vista movie maker to windows 7 !!!!!
Yup some go0d guy compiled it to a stand alone !!!!
If u want , just ask- Well the EU is a bunch of 70- 90 year old men who know nothing of how technology works.
One thing I DO like that they want to do, is set a volume limit on headphones/mp3 players. I cant tell you how much I hate when the kids listen to their ipods with the music blasting while on the bus. - Actully the new movie maker (one that came out like 2 months ago) is better then the one that came out a year ago.
still needs that time line view - It doesn't bother me that they have made MM a optional download. Some people will never use it, so why should it be cluttering up their hard drive if they never use MovieMaker. That goes for any other bundled software.
The bundled software has been a puzzle for me, for years. Every 18 months they have doubled the speed of our processors. With that doubling of processor speed comes doubling of running background programs. In the end our computers are no faster, maybe a little slower.
I just hope they fix MM so that greenscreen effect can be used. I tried to get greenscreen effects in the Vista version of MM with no luck. For Windows XP I found many solutions for greenscreen, and many complants about the lack of it in Vista. - ENGLISH ONLY!!!
Thank a teacher if you can read this.
Thank a Veteran if you can read this in English.
